From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Han Pingtian <hanpt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] topology: support node_numa_mem() for determining the fallback node
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:09:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140218210923.GA28170@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1402181356120.2910@nuc>
On 18.02.2014 [13:58:20 -0600], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, on powerpc, with the hypervisor providing the resources and the
> > topology, you can have cpuless and memoryless nodes. I'm not sure how
> > "fake" the NUMA is -- as I think since the resources are virtualized to
> > be one system, it's logically possible that the actual topology of the
> > resources can be CPUs from physical node 0 and memory from physical node
> > 2. I would think with KVM on a sufficiently large (physically NUMA
> > x86_64) and loaded system, one could cause the same sort of
> > configuration to occur for a guest?
>
> Ok but since you have a virtualized environment: Why not provide a fake
> home node with fake memory that could be anywhere? This would avoid the
> whole problem of supporting such a config at the kernel level.
We use the topology provided by the hypervisor, it does actually reflect
where CPUs and memory are, and their corresponding performance/NUMA
characteristics.
> Do not have a fake node that has no memory.
>
> > In any case, these configurations happen fairly often on long-running
> > (not rebooted) systems as LPARs are created/destroyed, resources are
> > DLPAR'd in and out of LPARs, etc.
>
> Ok then also move the memory of the local node somewhere?
This happens below the OS, we don't control the hypervisor's decisions.
I'm not sure if that's what you are suggesting.
Thanks,
Nish
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Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-07 2:21 [PATCH] slub: Don't throw away partial remote slabs if there is no local memory Anton Blanchard
2014-01-07 4:19 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 4:19 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 4:19 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 6:49 ` Andi Kleen
2014-01-08 14:03 ` Anton Blanchard
2014-01-07 7:41 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07 8:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 8:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:10 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07 9:21 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:31 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07 9:49 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:49 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:49 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:21 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:21 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 8:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:52 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-09 0:20 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07 9:52 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 9:52 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-20 9:10 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-20 9:10 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-20 9:10 ` Wanpeng Li
[not found] ` <52dce7fe.e5e6420a.5ff6.ffff84a0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2014-01-20 22:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-21 2:20 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-21 2:20 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-21 2:20 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-24 3:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-24 3:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-24 3:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-24 3:14 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-24 3:14 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-24 3:14 ` Wanpeng Li
[not found] ` <52e1da8f.86f7440a.120f.25f3SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2014-01-24 15:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-24 21:03 ` David Rientjes
2014-01-24 22:19 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-01-24 23:29 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-01-24 23:49 ` David Rientjes
2014-01-25 0:16 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-01-25 0:25 ` David Rientjes
2014-01-25 1:10 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-01-27 5:58 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-28 18:29 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-01-29 15:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-29 22:36 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-01-30 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-03 23:00 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-04 3:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-04 7:26 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-04 20:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-05 0:13 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-05 19:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-06 2:08 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-06 17:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-27 16:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-06 2:07 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-06 8:04 ` Joonsoo Kim
[not found] ` <20140206185955.GA7845@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2014-02-06 19:28 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-07 8:03 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] slub: search partial list on numa_mem_id(), instead of numa_node_id() Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] topology: support node_numa_mem() for determining the fallback node Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 8:52 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 10:29 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 19:11 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-07 5:42 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 20:52 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-07 5:48 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-07 17:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-07 18:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-07 21:38 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-10 1:15 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-10 1:29 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-11 18:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-10 19:13 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-11 7:42 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-12 22:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-13 3:53 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-17 6:52 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-18 16:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-19 22:04 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-20 16:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-24 5:08 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-24 19:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-03-13 16:51 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-18 17:22 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-13 6:51 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-17 7:00 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-18 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-18 17:28 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-18 19:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-18 21:09 ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2014-02-18 21:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-18 22:22 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-19 16:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-19 22:03 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-08 9:57 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-10 1:09 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-22 1:03 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-07-22 1:16 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-22 21:43 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-07-22 21:49 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-22 23:47 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-07-23 0:43 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] slub: fallback to get_numa_mem() node if we want to allocate on memoryless node Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-07 5:41 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-07 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-10 1:22 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-02-06 8:37 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] slub: search partial list on numa_mem_id(), instead of numa_node_id() David Rientjes
2014-02-06 17:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-06 17:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-16 23:37 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-05-19 2:41 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-06-05 0:13 ` [RESEND PATCH] " David Rientjes
2014-01-27 16:24 ` [PATCH] slub: Don't throw away partial remote slabs if there is no local memory Christoph Lameter
2014-01-27 16:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-07 9:42 ` David Laight
2014-01-08 14:14 ` Anton Blanchard
2014-01-07 10:28 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 10:28 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 10:28 ` Wanpeng Li
[not found] ` <20140107041939.GA20916@hacker.(null)>
2014-01-08 14:17 ` Anton Blanchard
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