From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Use an alternative to _PAGE_PROTNONE for _PAGE_NUMA v2
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:51:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140408185146.GP7292@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwrwYmWFXWpPeg-keKukW0=dwvmUBuN4NKA=JcseiUX3g@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 10:01:39AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > If you are ok with leaving _PAGE_NUMA as _PAGE_PROTNONE
>
> NO I AM NOT!
>
> Dammit, this feature is f*cking brain-damaged.
>
> My complaint has been (and continues to be):
>
> - either it is 100% the same as PROTNONE, in which case thjat
> _PAGE_NUMA bit had better go away, and you just use the protnone
> helpers!
>
In which case we'd still use VMAs to distinguish between PROTNONE faults
and NUMA hinting faults. We may still need some special casing. It's plan
b but not my preferred solution at this time.
> - if it's not the same as PROTNONE, then it damn well needs a different bit.
>
With this series applied _PAGE_NUMA != _PAGE_PROTNONE.
> You can't have it both ways. You guys tried. The Xen case shows that
> trying to distinguish the two DOES NOT WORK. But even apart from the
> Xen case, it was just a confusing hell.
>
Which is why I responded with a series that used a different bit instead
of more discussions that would reach the same conclusion.
> Like Yoda said: "Either they are the same or they are not. There is no 'try'".
>
> So pick one solution. Don't try to pick the mixed-up half-way case
> that is a disaster and makes no sense.
>
I picked a solution. The posted series uses a different bit.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-08 13:09 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Use an alternative to _PAGE_PROTNONE for _PAGE_NUMA v2 Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 13:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86: Require x86-64 for automatic NUMA balancing Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 13:09 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86: Define _PAGE_NUMA by reusing software bits on the PMD and PTE levels Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 13:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Allow FOLL_NUMA on FOLL_FORCE Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 13:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: use paravirt friendly ops for NUMA hinting ptes Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 17:21 ` David Vrabel
2014-04-15 10:27 ` David Vrabel
2014-04-15 14:44 ` Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 13:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86: Allow Xen to enable NUMA_BALANCING Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Use an alternative to _PAGE_PROTNONE for _PAGE_NUMA v2 H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-08 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-08 16:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-08 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-08 16:46 ` Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-08 18:51 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2014-04-08 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-08 19:06 ` Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2014-04-08 17:03 ` Mel Gorman
2014-04-08 17:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-08 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-08 18:16 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-04-09 6:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-09 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-10 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
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