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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/19] VFS: use GFP_NOFS rather than GFP_KERNEL in __d_alloc.
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:49:41 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140416164941.37587da6@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140416062520.GG15995@dastard>

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:25:20 +1000 Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 02:03:37PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > __d_alloc can be called with i_mutex held, so it is safer to
> > use GFP_NOFS.
> > 
> > lockdep reports this can deadlock when loop-back NFS is in use,
> > as nfsd may be required to write out for reclaim, and nfsd certainly
> > takes i_mutex.
> 
> But not the same i_mutex as is currently held. To me, this seems
> like a false positive? If you are holding the i_mutex on an inode,
> then you have a reference to the inode and hence memory reclaim
> won't ever take the i_mutex on that inode.
> 
> FWIW, this sort of false positive was a long stabding problem for
> XFS - we managed to get rid of most of the false positives like this
> by ensuring that only the ilock is taken within memory reclaim and
> memory reclaim can't be entered while we hold the ilock.
> 
> You can't do that with the i_mutex, though....
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.

I'm not sure this is a false positive.
You can call __d_alloc when creating a file and so are holding i_mutex on the
directory.
nfsd might also want to access that directory.

If there was only 1 nfsd thread, it would need to get i_mutex and do it's
thing before replying to that request and so before it could handle the
COMMIT which __d_alloc is waiting for.

Obviously we would normally have multiple nfsd threads but if they were all
blocked on an i_mutex which itself was blocked on nfs_release_page which was
waiting for an nfsd thread to handling its COMMIT request, this could be a
real deadlock.

Thanks,
NeilBrown

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-16  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-16  4:03 [PATCH/RFC 00/19] Support loop-back NFS mounts NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 07/19] nfsd and VM: use PF_LESS_THROTTLE to avoid throttle in shrink_inactive_list NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 12/19] NET: set PF_FSTRANS while holding rtnl_lock NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 02/19] lockdep: lockdep_set_current_reclaim_state should save old value NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 09/19] XFS: ensure xfs_file_*_read cannot deadlock in memory allocation NeilBrown
2014-04-16  6:04   ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  6:27     ` NeilBrown
2014-04-16  6:31     ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 10/19] NET: set PF_FSTRANS while holding sk_lock NeilBrown
2014-04-16  5:13   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-04-16  5:47     ` NeilBrown
2014-04-16 13:00     ` David Miller
2014-04-17  2:38       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 08/19] Set PF_FSTRANS while write_cache_pages calls ->writepage NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 14/19] driver core: set PF_FSTRANS while holding gdp_mutex NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 04/19] Make effect of PF_FSTRANS to disable __GFP_FS universal NeilBrown
2014-04-16  5:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  6:17     ` NeilBrown
2014-04-17  1:03       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-17  4:41         ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 13/19] MM: set PF_FSTRANS while allocating per-cpu memory to avoid deadlock NeilBrown
2014-04-16  5:49   ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  6:22     ` NeilBrown
2014-04-16  6:30       ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 01/19] Promote current_{set, restore}_flags_nested from xfs to global NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 03/19] lockdep: improve scenario messages for RECLAIM_FS errors NeilBrown
2014-04-16  7:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 11/19] FS: set PF_FSTRANS while holding mmap_sem in exec.c NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 05/19] SUNRPC: track whether a request is coming from a loop-back interface NeilBrown
2014-04-16 14:47   ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-16 23:25     ` NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 06/19] nfsd: set PF_FSTRANS for nfsd threads NeilBrown
2014-04-16  7:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 19/19] XFS: set PF_FSTRANS while ilock is held in xfs_free_eofblocks NeilBrown
2014-04-16  6:18   ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 15/19] nfsd: set PF_FSTRANS when client_mutex is held NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 16/19] VFS: use GFP_NOFS rather than GFP_KERNEL in __d_alloc NeilBrown
2014-04-16  6:25   ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  6:49     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2014-04-16  9:00       ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-17  0:51         ` NeilBrown
2014-04-17  5:58           ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 18/19] nfsd: set PF_FSTRANS during nfsd4_do_callback_rpc NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:03 ` [PATCH 17/19] VFS: set PF_FSTRANS while namespace_sem is held NeilBrown
2014-04-16  4:46   ` Al Viro
2014-04-16  5:52     ` NeilBrown
     [not found]       ` <20140416155230.4d02e4b9-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 16:37         ` Al Viro
2014-04-16 14:42 ` [PATCH/RFC 00/19] Support loop-back NFS mounts Jeff Layton
2014-04-17  0:20   ` NeilBrown
2014-04-17  1:27     ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-17  1:50       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-17  4:23         ` Dave Chinner

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