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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Dirty/Access bits vs. page content
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:41:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140423184145.GH17824@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1404221847120.1759@eggly.anvils>

On Tue 22-04-14 20:08:59, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > That said, Dave Hansen did report a BUG_ON() in
> > mpage_prepare_extent_to_map(). His line number was odd, but I assume
> > it's this one:
> > 
> >         BUG_ON(PageWriteback(page));
> > 
> > which may be indicative of some oddity here wrt the dirty bit.
> 
> Whereas later mail from Dave showed it to be the
> 	BUG_ON(!PagePrivate(page));
> in page_buffers() from fs/ext4/inode.c mpage_prepare_extent_to_map().
> But still presumably some kind of fallout from your patches.
> 
> Once upon a time there was a page_has_buffers() check in there,
> but Honza decided that's nowadays unnecessary in f8bec37037ac
> "ext4: dirty page has always buffers attached".  Cc'ed,
> he may very well have some good ideas.
> 
> Reading that commit reminded me of how we actually don't expect that
> set_page_dirty() in zap_pte_range() to do anything at all on the usual
> mapping_cap_account_dirty()/page_mkwrite() filesystems, do we?  Or do we?
  Yes, for shared file mappings we (as in filesystems implementing
page_mkwrite() handler) expect a page is writeably mmapped iff the page is
dirty. So in particular we don't expect set_page_dirty() in zap_pte_range()
to do anything because if the pte has dirty bit set, we are tearing down a
writeable mapping of the page and thus the page should be already dirty.

Now the devil is in synchronization of different places where transitions
from/to writeably-mapped state happen. In the fault path (do_wp_page())
where transition to writeably-mapped happens we hold page lock while
calling set_page_dirty(). In the writeout path (clear_page_dirty_for_io())
where we transition from writeably-mapped we hold the page lock as well
while calling page_mkclean() and possibly set_page_dirty(). So these two
places are nicely serialized. However zap_pte_range() doesn't hold page
lock so it can race with the previous two places. Before Linus' patches we
called set_page_dirty() under pte lock in zap_pte_range() and also before
decrementing page->mapcount. So if zap_pte_range() raced with
clear_page_dirty_for_io() we were guaranteed that by the time
clear_page_dirty_for_io() returns, pte dirty bit is cleared and
set_page_dirty() was called (either from clear_page_dirty_for_io() or from
zap_pte_range()).

However with Linus' patches set_page_dirty() from zap_pte_range() gets
called after decremeting page->mapcount so page_mkclean() won't event try
to walk rmap. And even if page_mkclean() did walk the rmap, zap_pte_range()
calls set_page_dirty() after dropping pte lock so it can get called long
after page_mkclean() (and clear_page_dirty_for_io()) has returned.

Now I'm not sure how to fix Linus' patches. For all I care we could just
rip out pte dirty bit handling for file mappings. However last time I
suggested this you corrected me that tmpfs & ramfs need this. I assume this
is still the case - however, given we unconditionally mark the page dirty
for write faults, where exactly do we need this?

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-23 18:41 UTC|newest]

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2014-04-22  0:31               ` Dirty/Access bits vs. page content Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22  0:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22  5:15                   ` Tony Luck
2014-04-22 14:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22  7:34                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-22  7:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-22 21:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 21:46                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-22 22:08                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 22:41                           ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-23  2:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-23  3:08                       ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-23  4:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-23  6:14                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-23 18:41                         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-04-23 19:33                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-24  6:51                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 18:40                               ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 19:45                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-24 20:02                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 23:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25  1:37                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25  2:41                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25  2:46                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25  2:50                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-25  3:03                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 12:01                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 13:51                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 19:41                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-26 18:07                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27  7:20                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 12:20                                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-27 19:33                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 19:47                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-27 20:09                                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-28  9:25                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-28 10:14                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 16:21                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-27 23:13                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25 16:54                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-25 18:41                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 22:00                                                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-26  3:11                                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-26  3:48                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 17:56                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 19:13                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 16:30                                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-23 20:11                           ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24  8:49                             ` Jan Kara

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