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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, mst@redhat.com,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] x86_64: expand kernel stack to 16K
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 09:17:08 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140528231708.GE6677@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5386664A.5060304@zytor.com>

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 03:42:18PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 05/28/2014 03:11 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 07:23:23AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> We tried for 4K on x86-64, too, for b quite a while as I recall.
> >> The kernel stack is a one of the main costs for a thread.  I would
> >> like to decouple struct thread_info from the kernel stack (PJ
> >> Waskewicz was working on that before he left Intel) but that
> >> doesn't buy us all that much.
> >>
> >> 8K additional per thread is a huge hit.  XFS has indeed always
> >> been a canary, or troublespot, I suspect because it originally
> >> came from another kernel where this was not an optimization
> >> target.
> > 
> > <sigh>
> > 
> > Always blame XFS for stack usage problems.
> > 
> > Even when the reported problem is from IO to an ext4 filesystem.
> > 
> 
> You were the one calling it a canary.

That doesn't mean it's to blame. Don't shoot the messenger...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-28 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-28  6:53 [PATCH 1/2] ftrace: print stack usage right before Oops Minchan Kim
2014-05-28  6:53 ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64: expand kernel stack to 16K Minchan Kim
2014-05-28  8:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-28  9:13     ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-28 16:06       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 21:55         ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-29  6:06         ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-28  9:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-29  1:09     ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-29  2:44       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-29  4:11         ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-29  2:47       ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-28  9:27   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-29 13:23     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-28 14:14   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-28 14:23     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-28 22:11       ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-28 22:42         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-28 23:17           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2014-05-28 23:21             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-28 15:43   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-28 16:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-28 16:11       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-28 16:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-28 16:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-28 22:31     ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-28 22:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29  1:30         ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-29  1:58           ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-29  2:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29 23:36             ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  0:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30  0:20                 ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  0:31                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30  0:50                     ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  1:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30  1:58                         ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-30  2:13                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30  6:21                         ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  1:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30  0:15               ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-30  2:12                 ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  4:37                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-31  1:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30  6:12                   ` Minchan Kim
2014-06-03 13:28                   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2014-06-03 19:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29  2:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29  5:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-29  6:01             ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-29  7:26               ` virtio ring cleanups, which save stack on older gcc Rusty Russell
2014-05-29  7:26                 ` [PATCH 1/4] Hack: measure stack taken by vring from virtio_blk Rusty Russell
2014-05-29 15:39                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29  7:26                 ` [PATCH 2/4] virtio_net: pass well-formed sg to virtqueue_add_inbuf() Rusty Russell
2014-05-29 10:07                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-29  7:26                 ` [PATCH 3/4] virtio_ring: assume sgs are always well-formed Rusty Russell
2014-05-29 11:18                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-29  7:26                 ` [PATCH 4/4] virtio_ring: unify direct/indirect code paths Rusty Russell
2014-05-29  7:52                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-29 11:05                     ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-29 11:33                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-29 11:29                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-30  2:37                     ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-29  7:41                 ` virtio ring cleanups, which save stack on older gcc Minchan Kim
2014-05-29 10:39                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-29 11:08                   ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-29 23:45                     ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  1:06                       ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  6:56                       ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-29  7:26             ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64: expand kernel stack to 16K Dave Chinner
2014-05-29 15:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29 23:40                 ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-29 23:53                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-30  0:06                   ` Dave Jones
2014-05-30  0:21                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-30  0:29                       ` Dave Jones
2014-05-30  0:32                       ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30  1:34                         ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-30 15:25                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-30 15:41                             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30 15:52                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-30 16:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-30 17:24                                   ` Dave Hansen
2014-05-30 18:12                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-30  9:48                 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-30 15:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-31  2:06             ` Jens Axboe
2014-06-02 22:59               ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-03 13:02               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-29  3:46     ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-29  4:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-29  5:10         ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-30 21:23     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 16:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] ftrace: print stack usage right before Oops Steven Rostedt
2014-05-29  3:52   ` Minchan Kim
2014-05-29  3:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-29  3:49   ` Minchan Kim

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