From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow hard guarantee mode for low limit reclaim
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:29:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140606152914.GA14001@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1402066010-25901-2-git-send-email-mhocko@suse.cz>
Hello, Michal.
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 04:46:50PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> +choice
> + prompt "Memory Resource Controller reclaim protection"
> + depends on MEMCG
> + help
Why is this necessary?
- This doesn't affect boot.
- memcg requires runtime config *anyway*.
- The config is inherited from the parent, so the default flipping
isn't exactly difficult.
Please drop the kconfig option.
> +static int mem_cgroup_write_reclaim_strategy(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css, struct cftype *cft,
> + char *buffer)
> +{
> + struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_css(css);
> + int ret = 0;
> +
> + if (!strncmp(buffer, "low_limit_guarantee",
> + sizeof("low_limit_guarantee"))) {
> + memcg->hard_low_limit = true;
> + } else if (!strncmp(buffer, "low_limit_best_effort",
> + sizeof("low_limit_best_effort"))) {
> + memcg->hard_low_limit = false;
> + } else
> + ret = -EINVAL;
> +
> + return ret;
> +}
So, ummm, this raises a big red flag for me. You're now implementing
two behaviors in a mostly symmetric manner to soft/hard limits but
choosing a completely different scheme in how they're configured
without any rationale.
* Are you sure soft and hard guarantees aren't useful when used in
combination? If so, why would that be the case?
* We have pressure monitoring interface which can be used for soft
limit pressure monitoring. How should breaching soft guarantee be
factored into that? There doesn't seem to be any way of notifying
that at the moment? Wouldn't we want that to be integrated into the
same mechanism?
What scares me the most is that you don't even seem to have noticed
the asymmetry and are proposing userland-facing interface without
actually thinking things through. This is exactly how we've been
getting into trouble.
For now, for everything.
Nacked-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Thanks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-06 15:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-28 12:26 [PATCH v2 0/4] memcg: Low-limit reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg, mm: introduce lowlimit reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 22:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 9:36 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 12:07 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 13:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 14:15 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:11 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:48 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:58 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 16:49 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 22:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-05 14:21 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-19 16:18 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 16:08 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 13:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 14:32 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 15:21 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 16:12 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 16:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 18:30 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: Allow setting low_limit Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg, doc: clarify global vs. limit reclaims Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 23:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 9:43 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:56 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: Document memory.low_limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 22:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 9:46 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] memcg: Low-limit reclaim Roman Gushchin
2014-04-29 7:42 ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-29 10:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2014-04-29 12:54 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-30 22:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 12:03 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-02 11:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 12:10 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 13:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 14:21 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 15:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 15:54 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 16:33 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-03 11:07 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 14:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-04 14:46 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-04 15:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-04 19:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-06-04 21:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 14:51 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 16:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 16:43 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 18:23 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-06 14:44 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible during direct reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow hard guarantee mode for low limit reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 15:29 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-06-06 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-09 8:30 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-09 13:54 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-09 22:52 ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-10 16:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-10 22:16 ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-11 7:57 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 8:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible during direct reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 8:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow guarantee reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-12 13:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 14:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-12 16:17 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 12:59 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 13:57 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 14:04 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 14:12 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 14:40 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-12 16:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-16 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible during direct reclaim Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 16:14 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 12:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow hard guarantee mode for low limit reclaim Tejun Heo
2014-06-11 14:11 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-05 19:36 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] memcg: Low-limit reclaim Tejun Heo
2014-06-05 14:32 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 15:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 16:09 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 16:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 16:17 ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-03 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 14:01 ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-03 14:44 ` Michal Hocko
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