From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com (mail-pd0-f177.google.com [209.85.192.177]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012E06B0035 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y10so12405114pdj.8 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 13:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org (mail.linuxfoundation.org. [140.211.169.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id hq3si31172794pad.87.2014.07.02.13.42.17 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 13:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:42:15 -0700 From: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] free reclaimed pages by paging out instantly Message-Id: <20140702134215.2bf830dcb904c34bd2e2b9e8@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <1404260029-11525-1-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org> References: <1404260029-11525-1-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Minchan Kim Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Mel Gorman , Rik van Riel , Hugh Dickins , Johannes Weiner , Michal Hocko On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:13:46 +0900 Minchan Kim wrote: > Normally, I/O completed pages for reclaim would be rotated into > inactive LRU tail without freeing. The why it works is we can't free > page from atomic context(ie, end_page_writeback) due to vaious locks > isn't aware of atomic context. > > So for reclaiming the I/O completed pages, we need one more iteration > of reclaim and it could make unnecessary aging as well as CPU overhead. > > Long time ago, at the first trial, most concern was memcg locking > but recently, Johnannes tried amazing effort to make memcg lock simple > and got merged into mmotm so I coded up based on mmotm tree. > (Kudos to Johannes) > > On 1G, 12 CPU kvm guest, build kernel 5 times and result was > > allocstall > vanilla: records: 5 avg: 4733.80 std: 913.55(19.30%) max: 6442.00 min: 3719.00 > improve: records: 5 avg: 1514.20 std: 441.69(29.17%) max: 1974.00 min: 863.00 Well yes. We're now doing unaccounted, impact-a-random-process work in irq context which was previously being done in process context, accounted to the process which was allocating the memory. Some would call this a regression ;) > pgrotated > vanilla: records: 5 avg: 873313.80 std: 40999.20(4.69%) max: 954722.00 min: 845903.00 > improve: records: 5 avg: 28406.40 std: 3296.02(11.60%) max: 34552.00 min: 25047.00 Still a surprisingly high amount of rotation going on. > Most of field in vmstat are not changed too much but things I can notice > is allocstall and pgrotated. We could save allocstall(ie, direct relcaim) > and pgrotated very much. > > Welcome testing, review and any feedback! Well, it will worsen IRQ latencies and it's all more code for us to maintain. I think I'd like to see a better story about the end-user benefits before proceeding. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org