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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	Jianyu Zhan <nasa4836@gmail.com>,
	Paul Cassella <cassella@cray.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Peter Feiner <pfeiner@google.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kvm: Faults which trigger IO release the mmap_sem
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:16:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140925211604.GA4590@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410976308-7683-1-git-send-email-andreslc@google.com>

Hi Andres,

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51:48AM -0700, Andres Lagar-Cavilla wrote:
> +	if (!locked) {
> +		VM_BUG_ON(npages != -EBUSY);
> +

Shouldn't this be VM_BUG_ON(npages)?

Alternatively we could patch gup to do:

			case -EHWPOISON:
+			case -EBUSY:
				return i ? i : ret;
-			case -EBUSY:
-				return i;

I need to fix gup_fast slow path to start with FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY
similarly to what you did to the KVM slow path.

gup_fast is called without the mmap_sem (incidentally its whole point
is to only disable irqs and not take the locks) so the enabling of
FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY initial pass inside gup_fast should be all self
contained. It shouldn't concern KVM which should be already fine with
your patch, but it will allow the userfaultfd to intercept all
O_DIRECT gup_fast in addition to KVM with your patch.

Eventually get_user_pages should be obsoleted in favor of
get_user_pages_locked (or whoever we decide to call it) so the
userfaultfd can intercept all kind of gups. gup_locked is same as gup
except for one more "locked" parameter at the end, I called the
parameter locked instead of nonblocking because it'd be more proper to
call "nonblocking" gup the FOLL_NOWAIT kind which is quite the
opposite (in fact as the mmap_sem cannot be dropped in the non
blocking version).

ptrace ironically is better off sticking with a NULL locked parameter
and to get a sigbus instead of risking hanging on the userfaultfd
(which would be safe as it can be killed, but it'd be annoying if
erroneously poking into a hole during a gdb session). It's still
possible to pass NULL as parameter to get_user_pages_locked to achieve
that. So the fact some callers won't block in handle_userfault because
FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY is not set and the userfault cannot block, may
come handy.

What I'm trying to solve in this context is that the userfault cannot
safely block without FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY because we can't allow
userland to take the mmap_sem for an unlimited amount of time without
requiring special privileges, so if handle_userfault wants to blocks
within a gup invocation, it must first release the mmap_sem hence
FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY is always required at the first attempt for any
virtual address.

With regard to the last sentence, there's actually a race with
MADV_DONTNEED too, I'd need to change the code to always pass
FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY (your code also would need to loop and
insisting with the __get_user_pages(locked) version to solve it). The
KVM ioctl worst case would get an -EFAULT if the race materializes for
example. It's non concerning though because that can be solved in
userland somehow by separating ballooning and live migration
activities.

Thanks,
Andrea

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-25 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-15 20:11 [PATCH] kvm: Faults which trigger IO release the mmap_sem Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-16 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-16 16:52   ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-16 16:55     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-16 18:29     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-16 18:42       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-17  7:43         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-17 16:58           ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-17 20:01             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-16 20:51   ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-16 21:01     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-16 22:34       ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-17  4:15         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-17 11:35       ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-17 10:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-17 11:27   ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-17 11:42     ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-17 17:00       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-17 17:08         ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-17 17:13           ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-17 17:21             ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-17 17:41               ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-17 17:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-18  0:29   ` Wanpeng Li
2014-09-18  6:13     ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19  0:32       ` Wanpeng Li
2014-09-19  3:58         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-19  6:08           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-22 20:49             ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-09-22 21:32               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-22 21:53                 ` Andrew Morton
2014-09-18  6:15   ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-25 21:16   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2014-09-25 21:50     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla

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