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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 2/3] slab: zap kmem_cache_shrink return value
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:16:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150126201602.GA3317@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1501261353480.16786@gentwo.org>

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 01:55:14PM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, why? The return value has existed since this function was
> > introduced, but nobody seems to have ever used it outside the slab core.
> > Besides, this check is racy, so IMO we shouldn't encourage users of the
> > API to rely on it. That said, I believe we should drop the return value
> > for now. If anybody ever needs it, we can reintroduce it.
> 
> The check is only racy if you have concurrent users. It is not racy if a
> subsystem shuts down access to the slabs and then checks if everything is
> clean before closing the cache.
>
> Slab creation and destruction are not serialized. It is the responsibility
> of the subsystem to make sure that there are no concurrent users and that
> there are no objects remaining before destroying a slab.

Right, but I just don't see why a subsystem using a kmem_cache would
need to check whether there are any objects left in the cache. I mean,
it should somehow keep track of the objects it's allocated anyway, e.g.
by linking them in a list. That means it must already have a way to
check if it is safe to destroy its cache or not.

Suppose we leave the return value as is. A subsystem, right before going
to destroy a cache, calls kmem_cache_shrink, which returns 1 (slab is
not empty). What is it supposed to do then?

Thanks,
Vladimir

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-26 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-26 12:55 [PATCH -mm 0/3] slub: make dead caches discard free slabs immediately Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 12:55 ` [PATCH -mm 1/3] slub: don't fail kmem_cache_shrink if slab placement optimization fails Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 15:48   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-26 17:01     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 18:24       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-26 19:36         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 19:53           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-27 12:58             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-27 17:02               ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-28 15:00                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 12:55 ` [PATCH -mm 2/3] slab: zap kmem_cache_shrink return value Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 15:49   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-26 17:04     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 18:26       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-26 19:48         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 19:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-26 20:16             ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2015-01-26 20:28               ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-26 20:43                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-26 12:55 ` [PATCH -mm 3/3] slub: make dead caches discard free slabs immediately Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-27  8:00   ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-01-27  8:23     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-01-27  9:21       ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-01-27  9:28         ` Vladimir Davydov

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