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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping for tail pages
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:04:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150323100433.GA30088@node.dhcp.inet.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1503221713370.3913@eggly.anvils>

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 05:28:47PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2015, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> 
> > Currently we take naive approach to page flags on compound -- we set the
> > flag on the page without consideration if the flag makes sense for tail
> > page or for compound page in general. This patchset try to sort this out
> > by defining per-flag policy on what need to be done if page-flag helper
> > operate on compound page.
> > 
> > The last patch in patchset also sanitize usege of page->mapping for tail
> > pages. We don't define meaning of page->mapping for tail pages. Currently
> > it's always NULL, which can be inconsistent with head page and potentially
> > lead to problems.
> > 
> > For now I catched one case of illigal usage of page flags or ->mapping:
> > sound subsystem allocates pages with __GFP_COMP and maps them with PTEs.
> > It leads to setting dirty bit on tail pages and access to tail_page's
> > ->mapping. I don't see any bad behaviour caused by this, but worth fixing
> > anyway.
> 
> But there's nothing to fix there.  We're more used to having page->mapping
> set by filesystems, but it is normal for drivers to have pages with NULL
> page->mapping mapped into userspace (and it's not accidental that they
> appear !PageAnon); and subpages of compound pages mapped into userspace,
> and set_page_dirty applied to them.

Yes, it works until some sound driver decide it wants to use
page->mappging.

It's just pure luck that it happened to work in this particular case.

> > This patchset makes more sense if you take my THP refcounting into
> > account: we will see more compound pages mapped with PTEs and we need to
> > define behaviour of flags on compound pages to avoid bugs.
> 
> Yes, I quite understand that you want to clarify the usage of different
> page flags to yourself, to help towards a policy of what to do with each
> of them when subpages of a huge compound page are mapped into userspace;
> but I don't see that we need this patchset in the kernel now, given that
> it adds unnecessary overhead into several low-level inline functions.

We already have subpages of compound page mapped to userspace -- the sound
case.

And what overhead are you talking about?

Check for compound or head bit is practically free in most cases since you
are going to check other bits in the same cache line anyway. Probably a
bit more expensive if the flag is encoded in ->mapping or somewhere else.
(on 32-bit x86 ->mapping case is also free, since it's in the same cache
line as ->flags).

You only need to pay the expense if you hit tail page which is very rare
in current kernel. I think we can pay this cost for correctness.

We will shave some cost of compound_head() if/when my refcounting patchset
get merged: no need of barrier anymore.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-23 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-19 17:08 [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping for tail pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: consolidate all page-flags helpers in <linux/page-flags.h> Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:10   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 02/16] page-flags: trivial cleanup for PageTrans* helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:12   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 03/16] page-flags: introduce page flags policies wrt compound pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-20 20:35   ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-20 21:34     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 04/16] page-flags: define PG_locked behavior on " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-27 15:11   ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 15:13   ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 16:37     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-15 20:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-06  4:15   ` page-flags behavior on compound pages: a worry Hugh Dickins
2015-08-06 15:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-06 19:24       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-06 20:45         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-07 14:50           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-07 15:28             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-10 11:09               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-10 13:50                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-07 14:49         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-13  5:10           ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-12 14:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-12 14:47           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-12 21:16           ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-12 22:21             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-13  4:12               ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 05/16] page-flags: define behavior of FS/IO-related flags on compound pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 18:29   ` Dave Hansen
2015-03-19 20:02     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:02       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23 12:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-24 22:54           ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-25 10:23             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-25 18:56               ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 06/16] page-flags: define behavior of LRU-related " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 07/16] page-flags: define behavior SL*B-related " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 08/16] page-flags: define behavior of Xen-related " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 09/16] page-flags: define PG_reserved behavior " Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-31 15:24   ` Chris Wilson
2020-02-03 15:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-02-03 15:24       ` Chris Wilson
2020-02-03 17:10         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-03 17:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] page-flags: define PG_swapbacked " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 11/16] page-flags: define PG_swapcache " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 12/16] page-flags: define PG_mlocked " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 13/16] page-flags: define PG_uncached " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 14/16] page-flags: define PG_uptodate " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 15/16] page-flags: look on head page if the flag is encoded in page->mapping Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 16/16] mm: sanitize page->mapping for tail pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:28 ` [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping " Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23 10:04   ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2015-03-24 23:42     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-25 10:55       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-24 17:39 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-03-24 20:04   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-15 20:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-15 21:18   ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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