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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Linaro Kernel Mailman List <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	vinmenon@codeaurora.org, shashim@codeaurora.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	mgorman@suse.de, dave@stgolabs.net, koct9i@gmail.com,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] vmstat: Avoid waking up idle-cpu to service shepherd work
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:30:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150327093023.GA32047@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150327091613.GE27490@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:16:13AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:19:54AM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 27 March 2015 at 01:48, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > Shouldn't this be viewed as a shortcoming of the core timer code?
> > 
> > Yeah, it is. Some (not so pretty) solutions were tried earlier to fix that, but
> > they are rejected for obviously reasons [1].
> > 
> > > vmstat_shepherd() is merely rescheduling itself with
> > > schedule_delayed_work().  That's a dead bog simple operation and if
> > > it's producing suboptimal behaviour then we shouldn't be fixing it with
> > > elaborate workarounds in the caller?
> > 
> > I understand that, and that's why I sent it as an RFC to get the discussion
> > started. Does anyone else have got another (acceptable) idea to get this
> > resolved ?
> 
> So the issue seems to be that we need base->running_timer in order to
> tell if a callback is running, right?
> 
> We could align the base on 8 bytes to gain an extra bit in the pointer
> and use that bit to indicate the running state. Then these sites can
> spin on that bit while we can change the actual base pointer.

Even though tvec_base has ____cacheline_aligned stuck on, most are
allocated using kzalloc_node() which does not actually respect that but
already guarantees a minimum u64 alignment, so I think we can use that
third bit without too much magic.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-27  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-26  5:39 [RFC] vmstat: Avoid waking up idle-cpu to service shepherd work Viresh Kumar
2015-03-26 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  4:49   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-27  9:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-27  9:30       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-03-27 11:11         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-27 12:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-27 19:45             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-28  4:28             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-28 11:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-28  4:18         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-28  9:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-28 11:57             ` viresh kumar
2015-03-28 12:04               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-28 13:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-29 10:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 12:02                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-30 12:47                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 13:14                       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-30 13:59                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 16:17                           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-30 16:25                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-29 12:01                 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-03-29 17:24                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 15:08             ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-30 15:14               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 15:42               ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-27 14:19 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-28  4:34   ` Viresh Kumar

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