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From: Michael Tirado <mtirado418@gmail.com>
To: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/shmem.c: Add new seal to memfd: F_SEAL_WRITE_NONCREATOR
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:28:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150417002847.1f5febf7@yak.slack> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANq1E4SbenR0-N4oLBMUe_2iiduU1TReA1RRTMA9_+h_mGwNOw@mail.gmail.com>


David, 
Thank you for the reply and your work on memfd.
It's been a fun learning experience working with this code.

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:01:07 +0200
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> wrote:

> No. This is not what sealing is about. Seals are a property of an
> object, they're unrelated to the process accessing it. Sealing is not
> an access-control method, but describes the state and capabilities of
> a file.

The comments on sealing at the top of shmem_add_seals lead me to believe 
that seals were in place specifically for access control purposes.


> The same functionality of F_SEAL_WRITE_NONCREATOR can be achieved by
> opening /proc/self/fd/<num> with O_RDONLY. Just pass that read-only FD
> to your peers but retain the writable one. But note that you must
> verify your peers do not have the same uid as you do, otherwise they
> can just gain a writable descriptor by opening /proc/self/fd/<num>
> themselves.
> 
> Thanks
> David

My peers may be any uid, in the same or different pid namespace. 
I would really like to not have to maintain an AF_UNIX connection to receive 
memfd's with a write seal.  It does make a lot of sense for multicasting, 
but I feel memfd would be more versitile if there was a concept of ownership, 
or directionality, so a user could shed the socket after SCM_RIGHTS message or
even fork without a socket at all.  I am more than willing to put in the work 
if someone can offer advice on how to better achieve this type of shared 
memory.  Maybe it's already out there and I just didn't know where to look?

-Michael

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-17  4:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16  7:23 [PATCH] mm/shmem.c: Add new seal to memfd: F_SEAL_WRITE_NONCREATOR Michael Tirado
2015-04-16  8:14 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-04-16 12:01   ` David Herrmann
2015-04-17  4:28     ` Michael Tirado [this message]
2015-04-17 10:48       ` David Herrmann
2015-04-17 22:45         ` Michael Tirado
2015-04-18 12:13           ` David Herrmann
2015-04-17  4:18   ` Michael Tirado
2015-04-28 13:28   ` [PATCH] mm/shmem.c: Add new seal to memfd: F_SEAL_WRITE_PEER Michael Tirado

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