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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	jglisse@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de, aarcange@redhat.com,
	riel@redhat.com, airlied@redhat.com,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Cameron Buschardt <cabuschardt@nvidia.com>,
	Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>,
	Geoffrey Gerfin <ggerfin@nvidia.com>,
	John McKenna <jmckenna@nvidia.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Interacting with coherent memory on external devices
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 04:20:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150425112039.GH5561@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150424150935.GB3840@gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:09:36AM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 07:57:38AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 09:12:07AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > DAX
> > > >
> > > > 	DAX is a mechanism for providing direct-memory access to
> > > > 	high-speed non-volatile (AKA "persistent") memory.  Good
> > > > 	introductions to DAX may be found in the following LWN
> > > > 	articles:
> > > 
> > > DAX is a mechanism to access memory not managed by the kernel and is the
> > > successor to XIP. It just happens to be needed for persistent memory.
> > > Fundamentally any driver can provide an MMAPPed interface to allow access
> > > to a devices memory.
> > 
> > I will take another look, but others in this thread have called out
> > difficulties with DAX's filesystem nature.
> 
> Do not waste your time on that this is not what we want. Christoph here
> is more than stuborn and fails to see the world.

Well, we do need to make sure that we are correctly representing DAX's
capabilities.  It is a hot topic, and others will probably also suggest
that it be used.  That said, at the moment, I don't see how it would help,
given the need to migrate memory.  Perhaps Boas Harrosh's patch set to
allow struct pages to be associated might help?  But from what I can see,
a fair amount of other functionality would still be required either way.

I am updating the DAX section a bit, but I don't claim that it is complete.

							Thanx, Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-25 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-21 21:44 Interacting with coherent memory on external devices Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 23:46 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22  0:36   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 12:42   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 23:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22  0:05   ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22  0:50     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22  1:01       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 13:35         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 13:18       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 16:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 17:07           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 18:17             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 18:52               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 14:12                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 19:24                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:01                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:13                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:53                       ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23  2:36               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:10                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 15:42                   ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 14:04                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 22:29                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23  2:30           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:25             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 15:25               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-23 19:33                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:12                   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:57                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:09                       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-25 11:20                         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-04-24 15:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 22:37                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-24 14:09                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:04       ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-22  0:42   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22  0:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22  1:04       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 15:25         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 16:31           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 17:14             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 19:07               ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-23  2:34               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:38                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:11                   ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 14:29                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 15:08                       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:03                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:43                           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:58                             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 17:19                               ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 18:56                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 19:29                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 20:00                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 20:32                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-25 11:46                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 15:08                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 15:47                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:17                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:29                                               ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 16:48                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 23:54                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-13 14:10                                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-13 23:38                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-14  7:39                                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-14  7:51                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-28 18:18                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:43                                               ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:51                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 17:21                                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 19:26                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 19:35                                                       ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 20:52                                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-28 14:18                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-28 17:20                                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:15                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:31                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 23:45                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 18:52                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:30                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:54                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:49                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:06                           ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25 11:49                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 16:00                       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:08                       ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 17:28               ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23  2:27           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:20             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:22               ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 18:41                 ` Oded Gabbay
2015-04-23 19:00               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 15:20       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-25  2:32 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25  3:32   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-25 11:55     ` Paul E. McKenney

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