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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	nzimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>, Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steffen Persvold <sp@numascale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: meminit: Finish initialisation of struct pages before basic setup
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 10:33:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150522093313.GZ2462@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1432276201.11133.1@cpanel21.proisp.no>

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:30:01PM +0800, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Daniel J Blueman
> <daniel@numascale.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> >>On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:53:33AM -0500, nzimmer wrote:
> >>> I am just noticed a hang on my largest box.
> >>> I can only reproduce with large core counts, if I turn down the
> >>> number of cpus it doesn't have an issue.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Odd. The number of core counts should make little a difference
> >>as only
> >>one CPU per node should be in use. Does sysrq+t give any
> >>indication how
> >>or where it is hanging?
> >
> >I was seeing the same behaviour of 1000ms increasing to 5500ms
> >[1]; this suggests either lock contention or O(n) behaviour.
> >
> >Nathan, can you check with this ordering of patches from Andrew's
> >cache [2]? I was getting hanging until I a found them all.
> >
> >I'll follow up with timing data.
> 
> 7TB over 216 NUMA nodes, 1728 cores, from kernel 4.0.4 load to login:
> 
> 1. 2086s with patches 01-19 [1]
> 
> 2. 2026s adding "Take into account that large system caches scale
> linearly with memory", which has:
> min(2UL << (30 - PAGE_SHIFT), (pgdat->node_spanned_pages >> 3));
> 
> 3. 2442s fixing to:
> max(2UL << (30 - PAGE_SHIFT), (pgdat->node_spanned_pages >> 3));
> 
> 4. 2064s adjusting minimum and shift to:
> max(512UL << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT), (pgdat->node_spanned_pages >> 8));
> 
> 5. 1934s adjusting minimum and shift to:
> max(128UL << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT), (pgdat->node_spanned_pages >> 8));
> 
> 6. 930s #5 with the non-temporal PMD init patch I had earlier
> proposed (I'll pursue separately)
> 
> The scaling patch isn't in -mm.

That patch was superceded by "mm: meminit: finish
initialisation of struct pages before basic setup" and
"mm-meminit-finish-initialisation-of-struct-pages-before-basic-setup-fix"
so that's ok.

FWIW, I think you should still go ahead with the non-temporal patches because
there is potential benefit there other than the initialisation.  If there
was an arch-optional implementation of a non-termporal clear then it would
also be worth considering if __GFP_ZERO should use non-temporal stores.
At a greater stretch it would be worth considering if kswapd freeing should
zero pages to avoid a zero on the allocation side in the general case as
it would be more generally useful and a stepping stone towards what the
series "Sanitizing freed pages" attempts.

> #5 tests out nice on a bunch of
> other AMD systems, 64GB and up, so: Tested-by: Daniel J Blueman
> <daniel@numascale.com>.
> 

Thanks very much Daniel, much appreciated.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-22  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 14:36 [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: meminit: Move page initialization into a separate function Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 03/13] mm: meminit: Only set page reserved in the memblock region Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 20:31   ` Tony Luck
2015-05-26 10:22     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: page_alloc: Pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:20   ` [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem -fix Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: meminit: Make __early_pfn_to_nid SMP-safe and introduce meminit_pfn_in_nid Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: meminit: Inline some helper functions Mel Gorman
2015-04-30 21:53   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 21:55     ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-04  8:33   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-04  8:38     ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set Mel Gorman
2015-04-29 21:19   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30  8:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:21   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set -fix Mel Gorman
2015-07-14 15:54   ` 4.2-rc2: hitting "file-max limit 8192 reached" Dave Hansen
2015-07-14 16:15     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-15 10:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 08/13] mm: meminit: Initialise remaining struct pages in parallel with kswapd Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm: meminit: Minimise number of pfn->page lookups during initialisation Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 10/13] x86: mm: Enable deferred struct page initialisation on x86-64 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: meminit: Free pages in large chunks where possible Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:23   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init -fix Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: meminit: Remove mminit_verify_page_links Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Pekka Enberg
2015-04-28 18:38   ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 16:10     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-04-30 17:12       ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 17:28         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-02 11:52       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29  1:16 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-01 22:02   ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  0:09     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  8:52       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-02 16:05         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-04 21:30       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05  3:32         ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 10:45         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 13:55           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 14:31             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 15:01               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  3:39                 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  0:55               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 20:02           ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05 22:13             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 22:25               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-06  7:12                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 10:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 12:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 17:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  2:37                       ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  7:21                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06  1:21             ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  2:01               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07  7:25             ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Finish initialisation of struct pages before basic setup Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 22:09               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 22:52                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 23:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-13 15:53                 ` nzimmer
2015-05-13 16:31                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-14 10:03                     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-14 15:47                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 18:31                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 19:06                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22  6:30                       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-22  9:33                         ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2015-05-22 17:14                           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-22 21:43                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-05-23  3:49                             ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-06-24 22:50                       ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 20:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 20:57                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 21:37                             ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:34                           ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-26 10:16                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-06 17:45                         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-07-09 17:49                           ` Nathan Zimmer

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