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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] memcg: get rid of mm_struct::owner
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:26:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150529152652.GG22728@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150529152328.GM27479@htj.duckdns.org>

On Fri 29-05-15 11:23:28, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 04:57:39PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > OK so you creat a task A (leader) which clones several tasks Pn with
> > CLONE_VM without CLONE_THREAD. Moving A around would control memcg
> > membership while Pn could be moved around freely to control membership
> > in other controllers (e.g. cpu to control shares). So it is something
> > like moving threads separately.
> 
> Sure, it'd behave clearly in certain cases but then again you'd have
> cases where how mm->owner changes isn't clear at all when seen from
> the userland. 

Sure. I am definitely _not_ advocating this use case! As said before, I
consider it abuse. It is just fair to point out this is a user visible
change IMO.

> e.g. When the original owner goes away, the assignment
> of the next owner is essentially arbitrary.  That's what I meant by
> saying it was already a crapshoot.  We should definitely document the
> change but this isn't likely to be an issue.  CLONE_VM &&
> !CLONE_THREAD is an extreme corner case to begin with and even the
> behavior there wasn't all that clearly defined.

That is the line of argumentation in my changelog ;)

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-29 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-26 11:50 [RFC 0/3] get rid of mm_struct::owner Michal Hocko
2015-05-26 11:50 ` [RFC 1/3] memcg: restructure mem_cgroup_can_attach() Michal Hocko
2015-05-26 11:50 ` [RFC 2/3] memcg: Use mc.moving_task as the indication for charge moving Michal Hocko
2015-05-26 11:50 ` [RFC 3/3] memcg: get rid of mm_struct::owner Michal Hocko
2015-05-26 14:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-26 15:11     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-26 17:20       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-27 14:48         ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-28 21:07     ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-29 12:08       ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-29 13:10         ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-29 13:45           ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-29 14:07             ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-29 14:57               ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-29 15:23                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-29 15:26                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-05-26 16:36   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-26 17:22     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-26 17:38       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-27  9:43         ` Michal Hocko

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