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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Remove pgd_list use from the memory hotplug code
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:24:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150614192422.GA18477@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150614073652.GA5923@gmail.com>

On 06/14, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > > +		spin_lock(&pgd_lock); /* Implies rcu_read_lock() for the task list iteration: */
> >                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Hmm, but it doesn't if PREEMPT_RCU? No, no, I do not pretend I understand how it
> > actually works ;) But, say, rcu_check_callbacks() can be called from irq and
> > since spin_lock() doesn't increment current->rcu_read_lock_nesting this can lead
> > to rcu_preempt_qs()?
>
> No, RCU grace periods are still defined by 'heavy' context boundaries such as
> context switches, entering idle or user-space mode.
>
> PREEMPT_RCU is like traditional RCU, except that blocking is allowed within the
> RCU read critical section - that is why it uses a separate nesting counter
> (current->rcu_read_lock_nesting), not the preempt count.

Yes.

> But if a piece of kernel code is non-preemptible, such as a spinlocked region or
> an irqs-off region, then those are still natural RCU read lock regions, regardless
> of the RCU model, and need no additional RCU locking.

I do not think so. Yes I understand that rcu_preempt_qs() itself doesn't
finish the gp, but if there are no other rcu-read-lock holders then it
seems synchronize_rcu() on another CPU can return _before_ spin_unlock(),
this CPU no longer needs rcu_preempt_note_context_switch().

OK, I can be easily wrong, I do not really understand the implementation
of PREEMPT_RCU. Perhaps preempt_disable() can actually act as rcu_read_lock()
with the _current_ implementation. Still this doesn't look right even if
happens to work, and Documentation/RCU/checklist.txt says:

11.	Note that synchronize_rcu() -only- guarantees to wait until
	all currently executing rcu_read_lock()-protected RCU read-side
	critical sections complete.  It does -not- necessarily guarantee
	that all currently running interrupts, NMIs, preempt_disable()
	code, or idle loops will complete.  Therefore, if your
	read-side critical sections are protected by something other
	than rcu_read_lock(), do -not- use synchronize_rcu().

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-14 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-13  9:49 [PATCH 00/12, v2] x86/mm: Implement lockless pgd_alloc()/pgd_free() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 01/12] x86/mm/pat: Don't free PGD entries on memory unmap Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Remove pgd_list use from the memory hotplug code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13 19:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-14  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14 19:24       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-06-14 19:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-15  0:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-15 20:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Don't remove PGD entries in remove_pagetable() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Simplify sync_global_pgds() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 05/12] mm: Introduce arch_pgd_init_late() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86/mm: Enable and use the arch_pgd_init_late() method Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 07/12] x86/virt/guest/xen: Remove use of pgd_list from the Xen guest code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14  8:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-15  9:05   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-15 10:30     ` David Vrabel
2015-06-15 20:35       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-16 14:15         ` David Vrabel
2015-06-16 14:19           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-06-16 14:27             ` David Vrabel
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86/mm: Remove pgd_list use from vmalloc_sync_all() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm/pat/32: Remove pgd_list use from the PAT code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86/mm: Make pgd_alloc()/pgd_free() lockless Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86/mm: Remove pgd_list leftovers Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86/mm: Simplify pgd_alloc() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13 18:58 ` why do we need vmalloc_sync_all? Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-14  7:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14 20:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-15  2:47       ` Andi Kleen
2015-06-15  2:57         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-15 20:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-15 20:48             ` Andy Lutomirski

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