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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>
Subject: Re: why do we need vmalloc_sync_all?
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:28:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150615202856.GA13273@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUp5Xm1ZmzoSEGrq1D05myAUhCzNgXvv-Cga8xjEi-CeQ@mail.gmail.com>


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> > Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
> >>
> >> But again, the kernel no longer does this? do_page_fault() does 
> >> vmalloc_fault() without notify_die(). If it fails, I do not see how/why a 
> >> modular DIE_OOPS handler could try to resolve this problem and trigger 
> >> another fault.
> >
> > The same problem can happen from NMI handlers or machine check handlers. It's 
> > not necessarily tied to page faults only.
> 
> AIUI, the point of the one and only vmalloc_sync_all call is to prevent 
> infinitely recursive faults when we call a notify_die callback.  The only thing 
> that it could realistically protect is module text or static non-per-cpu module 
> data, since that's the only thing that's reliably already in the init pgd.  I'm 
> with Oleg: I don't see how that can happen, since do_page_fault fixes up vmalloc 
> faults before it calls notify_die.

Yes, but what I meant is that it can happen if due to an unrelated kernel bug and 
unlucky timing we have installed this new handler just when that other unrelated 
kernel bug triggers: say a #GPF crash in kernel code.

In any case it should all be mooted with the removal of lazy PGD instantiation.

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-15 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-13  9:49 [PATCH 00/12, v2] x86/mm: Implement lockless pgd_alloc()/pgd_free() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 01/12] x86/mm/pat: Don't free PGD entries on memory unmap Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Remove pgd_list use from the memory hotplug code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13 19:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-14  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14 19:24       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-14 19:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-15  0:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-15 20:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Don't remove PGD entries in remove_pagetable() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/mm/hotplug: Simplify sync_global_pgds() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 05/12] mm: Introduce arch_pgd_init_late() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86/mm: Enable and use the arch_pgd_init_late() method Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 07/12] x86/virt/guest/xen: Remove use of pgd_list from the Xen guest code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14  8:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-15  9:05   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-15 10:30     ` David Vrabel
2015-06-15 20:35       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-16 14:15         ` David Vrabel
2015-06-16 14:19           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-06-16 14:27             ` David Vrabel
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86/mm: Remove pgd_list use from vmalloc_sync_all() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm/pat/32: Remove pgd_list use from the PAT code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86/mm: Make pgd_alloc()/pgd_free() lockless Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86/mm: Remove pgd_list leftovers Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86/mm: Simplify pgd_alloc() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-13 18:58 ` why do we need vmalloc_sync_all? Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-14  7:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14 20:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-15  2:47       ` Andi Kleen
2015-06-15  2:57         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-15 20:28           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-15 20:48             ` Andy Lutomirski

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