From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>, Xiexiuqi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>,
leon@leon.nu, Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 0/8] mm: mirrored memory support for page buddy allocations
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:46:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150630104654.GA24932@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150630094149.GA6812@suse.de>
* Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> [...]
>
> Basically, overall I feel this series is the wrong approach but not knowing who
> the users are making is much harder to judge. I strongly suspect that if
> mirrored memory is to be properly used then it needs to be available before the
> page allocator is even active. Once active, there needs to be controlled access
> for allocation requests that are really critical to mirror and not just all
> kernel allocations. None of that would use a MIGRATE_TYPE approach. It would be
> alterations to the bootmem allocator and access to an explicit reserve that is
> not accounted for as "free memory" and accessed via an explicit GFP flag.
So I think the main goal is to avoid kernel crashes when a #MC memory fault
arrives on a piece of memory that is owned by the kernel.
In that sense 'protecting' all kernel allocations is natural: we don't know how to
recover from faults that affect kernel memory.
We do know how to recover from faults that affect user-space memory alone.
So if a mechanism is in place that prioritizes 3 groups of allocators:
- non-recoverable memory (kernel allocations mostly)
- high priority user memory (critical apps that must never fail)
- recoverable user memory (non-dirty caches that can simply be dropped,
non-critical apps, etc.)
then we can make use of this hardware feature. I suspect this series tries to move
in that direction.
Thanks,
Ingo
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-30 10:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-27 2:19 [RFC v2 PATCH 0/8] mm: mirrored memory support for page buddy allocations Xishi Qiu
2015-06-27 2:23 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/8] mm: add a new config to manage the code Xishi Qiu
2015-06-29 6:50 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-30 2:52 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-27 2:24 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/8] mm: introduce MIGRATE_MIRROR to manage the mirrored pages Xishi Qiu
2015-06-29 7:32 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-30 2:45 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-30 7:53 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-30 9:22 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-27 2:24 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 3/8] mm: find mirrored memory in memblock Xishi Qiu
2015-06-27 2:25 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 4/8] mm: add mirrored memory to buddy system Xishi Qiu
2015-06-29 7:39 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-27 2:26 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 5/8] mm: introduce a new zone_stat_item NR_FREE_MIRROR_PAGES Xishi Qiu
2015-06-27 2:27 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 6/8] mm: add free mirrored pages info Xishi Qiu
2015-06-27 2:27 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 7/8] mm: add the buddy system interface Xishi Qiu
2015-06-29 23:11 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-30 1:01 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-30 1:31 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-30 2:01 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-27 2:28 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 8/8] mm: add the PCP interface Xishi Qiu
2015-06-29 15:19 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 0/8] mm: mirrored memory support for page buddy allocations Dave Hansen
2015-06-30 1:26 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-30 1:52 ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-30 2:48 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-30 9:41 ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-30 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-30 11:53 ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-30 18:12 ` Luck, Tony
2015-07-13 4:56 ` Xishi Qiu
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20150630104654.GA24932@gmail.com \
--to=mingo@kernel.org \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=dave.hansen@intel.com \
--cc=guohanjun@huawei.com \
--cc=hpa@zytor.com \
--cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=leon@leon.nu \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=mgorman@suse.de \
--cc=n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com \
--cc=qiuxishi@huawei.com \
--cc=tony.luck@intel.com \
--cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
--cc=xiexiuqi@huawei.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).