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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] memcg: punt high overage reclaim to return-to-userland path
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 16:53:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150828205301.GB11089@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150828204554.GM9610@esperanza>

Hello, Vladmir.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:45:54PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> Actually, memory.high by itself *is* the protection against GFP_NOWAIT
> allocations, similarly to zone watermarks. W/o it we would have no other
> choice but fail a GFP_NOWAIT allocation on hitting memory.max. One
> should just set it so that
> 
>   memory.max - memory.high > [max sum size of !__GFP_WAIT allocations
>                               that can normally occur in a row]

While this would be true in many cases, I don't think this is the
intention of the two knobs and the space between high and max can be
filled up by anything which can't be reclaimed - e.g. too many dirty /
writeback pages on a slow device or memlocked pages.  If it were
really the buffer for GFP_NOWAIT, there's no reason to even make it a
separate knob and we *may* change how over-high reclaim behaves in the
future, so let's please not dig ourselves into something too specific.

> That being said, currently I don't see any point in making memory.high
> !__GFP_WAIT-safe.

Yeah, as long as the blow up can't be triggered consistently, it
should be fine.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-28 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-28 15:25 [PATCHSET] memcg: improve high limit behavior and always enable kmemcg on dfl hier Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 15:25 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg: fix over-high reclaim amount Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 17:06   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 18:32     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-31  7:51       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-31 13:38         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-01 12:51           ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-01 18:33             ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 15:25 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: flatten task_struct->memcg_oom Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 17:11   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 15:25 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: punt high overage reclaim to return-to-userland path Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 16:36   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-28 16:48     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 20:32       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-28 20:44         ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 22:06           ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-29  7:59             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-30 15:52         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-28 17:13   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 17:56     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 20:45     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-28 20:53       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-08-28 21:07         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-28 21:14           ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 15:25 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: always enable kmemcg on the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 16:49   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-28 16:56     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-28 17:14     ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 17:41       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-01 12:44         ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-01 18:51           ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-04 13:30             ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-04 15:38               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-09-07  9:39                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-07 10:01                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-09-07 11:03                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-04 16:18               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-07 10:54                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-08 18:50                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-05 17:30   ` Michal Hocko

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