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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v10
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:21:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150923102142.GA12746@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1439493328-1028-1-git-send-email-jglisse@redhat.com>

Hi!

> Minor fixes since last post (1), apply on top of 4.2-rc6 done
> that because conflict in infiniband are harder to solve then

is.

> conflict with mm tree.
> 
> Tree with the patchset:
> git://people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/linux hmm-v10 branch
> 
> Previous cover letter :
> 
> 
> 
> HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) is an helper layer for device
> that want to mirror a process address space into their own mmu. Main
> target is GPU but other hardware, like network device can take also

GPU, ... devices

> use HMM.
> 
> There is two side to HMM, first one is mirroring of process address

There are

> space on behalf of a device. HMM will manage a secondary page table
> for the device and keep it synchronize with the CPU page table. HMM

synchronized

> also do DMA mapping on behalf of the device (which would allow new

also does

> kind of optimization further down the road (2)).

kinds of optimalizations

> Second side is allowing to migrate process memory to device memory

,

> where device memory is unmappable by the CPU. Any CPU access will
> trigger special fault that will migrate memory back. This patchset
> does not deal with remote memory migration.
> 
> 
> Why doing this ?
> 
> Mirroring a process address space is mandatory with OpenCL 2.0 and
> with other GPU compute API. OpenCL 2.0 allow different level of

APIs... allows

> implementation and currently only the lowest 2 are supported on
> Linux. To implement the highest level, where CPU and GPU access
> can happen concurently and are cache coherent, HMM is needed, or
> something providing same functionality, for instance through
> platform hardware.
> 
> Hardware solution such as PCIE ATS/PASID is limited to mirroring
> system memory and does not provide way to migrate memory to device
> memory (which offer significantly more bandwidth up to 10 times

, up to

> faster than regular system memory with discret GPU, also have

discrete? 

> lower latency than PCIE transaction).

> Current CPU with GPU on same die (AMD or Intel) use the ATS/PASID
> and for Intel a special level of cache (backed by a large pool of
> fast memory).
> 
> For foreeseeable futur, discrete GPU will remain releveant as they

future .. GPUs

> can have a large quantity of faster memory than integrated GPU.
> 
> Thus we believe HMM will allow to leverage discret GPU memory in

allow us... discrete

> a transparent fashion to the application, with minimum disruption
> to the linux kernel mm code. Also HMM can work along hardware
> solution such as PCIE ATS/PASID (leaving regular case to ATS/PASID
> while HMM handles the migrated memory case).

Best regards,
									Pavel

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-23 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-13 19:15 HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v10 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 01/15] mmu_notifier: add event information to address invalidation v8 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 02/15] mmu_notifier: keep track of active invalidation ranges v4 Jérôme Glisse
2015-09-01  3:27   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-09-01 14:58     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 03/15] mmu_notifier: pass page pointer to mmu_notifier_invalidate_page() v2 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 04/15] mmu_notifier: allow range invalidation to exclude a specific mmu_notifier Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 05/15] HMM: introduce heterogeneous memory management v5 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 06/15] HMM: add HMM page table v4 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 07/15] HMM: add per mirror " Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 08/15] HMM: add device page fault support v4 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 09/15] HMM: add mm page table iterator helpers Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 10/15] HMM: use CPU page table during invalidation Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 11/15] HMM: add discard range helper (to clear and free resources for a range) Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 12/15] HMM: add dirty range helper (toggle dirty bit inside mirror page table) v2 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 13/15] HMM: DMA map memory on behalf of device driver v2 Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 14/15] HMM: add documentation explaining HMM internals and how to use it Jérôme Glisse
2015-08-13 19:15 ` [PATCH 15/15] hmm/dummy: dummy driver for testing and showcasing the HMM API Jérôme Glisse
2015-09-23 10:21 ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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