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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 07/18] kthread: Allow to cancel kthread work
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:03:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150928170314.GF2589@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150925112617.GA3122@pathway.suse.cz>

Hello, Petr.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 01:26:17PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> 1) PENDING state plus -EAGAIN/busy loop cycle
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> IMHO, we want to use the timer because it is an elegant solution.
> Then we must release the lock when the timer is running. The lock
> must be taken by the timer->function(). And there is a small window
> when the timer is not longer pending but timer->function is not running:
> 
> CPU0                            CPU1
> 
> run_timer_softirq()
>   __run_timers()
>     detach_expired_timer()
>       detach_timer()
> 	#clear_pending
> 
> 				try_to_grab_pending_kthread_work()
> 				  del_timer()
> 				    # fails because not pending
> 
> 				  test_and_set_bit(KTHREAD_WORK_PENDING_BIT)
> 				    # fails because already set
> 
> 				  if (!list_empty(&work->node))
> 				    # fails because still not queued
> 
> 			!!! problematic window !!!
> 
>     call_timer_fn()
>      queue_kthraed_work()

Let's say each work item has a state variable which is protected by a
lock and the state can be one of IDLE, PENDING, CANCELING.  Let's also
assume that all cancelers synchronize with each other via mutex, so we
only have to worry about a single canceler.  Wouldn't something like
the following work while being a lot simpler?

Delayed queueing and execution.

1. Lock and check whether state is IDLE.  If not, nothing to do.

2. Set state to PENDING and schedule the timer and unlock.

3. On expiration, timer_fn grabs the lock and see whether state is
   still PENDING.  If so, schedule the work item for execution;
   otherwise, nothing to do.

4. After dequeueing from execution queue with lock held, the worker is
   marked as executing the work item and state is reset to IDLE.

Canceling

1. Lock, dequeue and set the state to CANCELING.

2. Unlock and perform del_timer_sync().

3. Flush the work item.

4. Lock and reset the state to IDLE and unlock.


> 2) CANCEL state plus custom waitqueue
> -------------------------------------
> 
> cancel_kthread_work_sync() has to wait for the running work. It might take
> quite some time. Therefore we could not block others by a spinlock.
> Also others could not wait for the spin lock in a busy wait.

Hmmm?  Cancelers can synchronize amongst them using a mutex and the
actual work item wait can use flushing.

> IMHO, the proposed and rather complex solutions are needed in both cases.
> 
> Or did I miss a possible trick, please?

I probably have missed something in the above and it is not completley
correct but I do think it can be way simpler than how workqueue does
it.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-28 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-21 13:03 [RFC v2 00/18] kthread: Use kthread worker API more widely Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 01/18] kthread: Allow to call __kthread_create_on_node() with va_list args Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 02/18] kthread: Add create_kthread_worker*() Petr Mladek
2015-09-22 18:20   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 03/18] kthread: Add drain_kthread_worker() Petr Mladek
2015-09-22 18:26   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 04/18] kthread: Add destroy_kthread_worker() Petr Mladek
2015-09-22 18:30   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 05/18] kthread: Add pending flag to kthread work Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 06/18] kthread: Initial support for delayed " Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 07/18] kthread: Allow to cancel " Petr Mladek
2015-09-22 19:35   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-25 11:26     ` Petr Mladek
2015-09-28 17:03       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-10-02 15:43         ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-02 19:24           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-05 10:07             ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-05 11:09               ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-07  9:21                 ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-07 14:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-14 10:20                     ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-14 17:30                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 08/18] kthread: Allow to modify delayed " Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 09/18] mm/huge_page: Convert khugepaged() into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-09-22 20:26   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-23  9:50     ` Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 10/18] ring_buffer: Do no not complete benchmark reader too early Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 11/18] ring_buffer: Fix more races when terminating the producer in the benchmark Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 12/18] ring_buffer: Convert benchmark kthreads into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 13/18] rcu: Finish folding ->fqs_state into ->gp_state Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 14/18] rcu: Store first_gp_fqs into struct rcu_state Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 15/18] rcu: Clean up timeouts for forcing the quiescent state Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 16/18] rcu: Check actual RCU_GP_FLAG_FQS when handling " Petr Mladek
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 17/18] rcu: Convert RCU gp kthreads into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-09-28 17:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-01 15:43     ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-01 16:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-21 13:03 ` [RFC v2 18/18] kthread: Better support freezable kthread workers Petr Mladek
2015-09-22 20:32 ` [RFC v2 00/18] kthread: Use kthread worker API more widely Tejun Heo
2015-09-30  5:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-01 15:59   ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-01 17:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-02 12:00       ` Petr Mladek
2015-10-02 13:59         ` Paul E. McKenney

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