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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:09:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151002060904.GA30051@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <560DB4A6.6050107@sr71.net>


* Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> wrote:

> On 10/01/2015 01:39 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> So could we try to add an (opt-in) kernel option that enables this transparently
> >> and automatically for all PROT_EXEC && !PROT_WRITE mappings, without any
> >> user-space changes and syscalls necessary?
> > 
> > I would like this very much. :)
> 
> Here it is in a quite fugly form (well, it's not opt-in).  Init crashes
> if I boot with this, though.
> 
> I'll see if I can turn it in to a bit more of an opt-in and see what's
> actually going wrong.

So the reality of modern Linux distros is that, according to some limited 
strace-ing around, pure PROT_EXEC usage does not seem to exist: 99% of executable 
mappings are mapped via PROT_EXEC|PROT_READ.

So the most usable kernel testing approach would be to enable these types of pkeys 
for a child task via some mechanism and inherit it to all children (including 
inheriting it over non-suid exec) - but not to any other task.

You could hijack a new personality bit just for debug purposes - see the (totally 
untested) patch below.

Depending on user-space's assumptions it might not end up being anything usable we 
can apply, but it would be a great testing tool if it worked to a certain degree.

I.e. allow the system to boot in without pkeys set for any task, then set the 
personality of a shell process to PER_LINUX_PKEYS and see which binaries (if any!) 
will start up without segfaulting.

This way you don't have to debug SystemD, which is extremely fragile and 
passive-aggressive towards kernels that don't behave in precisely the fashion 
under which SystemD is being developed.

Thanks,

	Ingo

========>

Absolutely-Not-Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>

 include/uapi/linux/personality.h | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)

diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/personality.h b/include/uapi/linux/personality.h
index aa169c4339d2..bead47213419 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/personality.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/personality.h
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
  * These occupy the top three bytes.
  */
 enum {
+	PROT_READ_EXEC_HACK =	0x0010000,	/* PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC == PROT_EXEC hack */
 	UNAME26	=               0x0020000,
 	ADDR_NO_RANDOMIZE = 	0x0040000,	/* disable randomization of VA space */
 	FDPIC_FUNCPTRS =	0x0080000,	/* userspace function ptrs point to descriptors
@@ -41,6 +42,7 @@ enum {
 enum {
 	PER_LINUX =		0x0000,
 	PER_LINUX_32BIT =	0x0000 | ADDR_LIMIT_32BIT,
+	PER_LINUX_PKEYS =	0x0000 | PROT_READ_EXEC_HACK,
 	PER_LINUX_FDPIC =	0x0000 | FDPIC_FUNCPTRS,
 	PER_SVR4 =		0x0001 | STICKY_TIMEOUTS | MMAP_PAGE_ZERO,
 	PER_SVR3 =		0x0002 | STICKY_TIMEOUTS | SHORT_INODE,

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-02  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 17:49 [PATCH 00/26] [RFCv2] x86: Memory Protection Keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 02/26] x86, pkeys: Add Kconfig option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 04/26] x86, pku: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 01/26] x86, fpu: add placeholder for Processor Trace XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 03/26] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 06/26] x86, pkeys: PTE bits for storing protection key Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 05/26] x86, pkey: add PKRU xsave fields and data structure(s) Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 19:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 19:58     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 07/26] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 11/26] x86, pkeys: add functions for set/fetch PKRU Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:22     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 10/26] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:21     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:29         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-23  8:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24  9:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24  9:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:41       ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-25  7:11         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25 23:18           ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-26  6:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27 22:39               ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28  5:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:15     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:25       ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-28 19:32         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 08/26] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 09/26] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 14/26] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 12/26] mm: factor out VMA fault permission checking Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 13/26] mm: simplify get_user_pages() PTE bit handling Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 16/26] x86, pkeys: dump PKRU with other kernel registers Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 17/26] x86, pkeys: dump PTE pkey in /proc/pid/smaps Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 15/26] x86, pkeys: optimize fault handling in access_error() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 20/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm: implement new mprotect_pkey() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 19/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm, multi-arch: pass a protection key in to calc_vm_flag_bits() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 18/26] x86, pkeys: add Kconfig prompt to existing config option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 21/26] [NEWSYSCALL] x86: wire up mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 22/26] [HIJACKPROT] mm: Pass the 4-bit protection key in via PROT_ bits to syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 23/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: add x86 version of arch_validate_prot() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 25/26] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 24/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: mask off pkeys bits in mprotect() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-09-20  8:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-21  4:34     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24  9:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 19:10         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24 19:17           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-25  7:16             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25  6:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 11:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 20:39             ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 20:45               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02  6:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 17:50                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-03  7:27                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-06 23:28                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07  7:11                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-16 15:12                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 18:55                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 19:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 23:22                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 20:58               ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:33               ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:35                 ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 22:39                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-01 22:56                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02  1:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 18:08                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02  7:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03  6:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 11:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 12:14                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-03  6:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 22:57                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02  6:09                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-10-03  8:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-07 20:24           ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07 20:39             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-07 20:47               ` Dave Hansen

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