From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:17:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151003081710.GA26206@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150924094956.GA30349@gmail.com>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> wrote:
>
> > > Another question, related to enumeration as well: I'm wondering whether
> > > there's any way for the kernel to allocate a bit or two for its own purposes -
> > > such as protecting crypto keys? Or is the facility fundamentally intended for
> > > user-space use only?
> >
> > No, that's not possible with the current setup.
>
> Ok, then another question, have you considered the following usecase:
So, I'm wondering about the following additional usecase:
Right now the native x86 PTE format allows two protection related bits for
user-space pages:
_PAGE_BIT_RW: if 0 the page is read-only, if 1 then it's read-write
_PAGE_BIT_NX: if 0 the page is executable, if 1 then it's not executable
As discussed previously, pkeys allows 'true execute only (--x)' mappings.
Another possibility would be 'true write-only (-w-)' mappings.
This too could in theory be introduced 'transparently', via 'pure PROT_WRITE'
mappings (i.e. no PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC bits set). Assuming the amount of user-space
with implicit 'PROT_WRITE implies PROT_READ' assumptions is not unmanageble for a
distro willing to try this.
Usage of this would be more limited than of pure PROT_EXEC mappings, but it's a
nonzero set:
- Write-only log buffers that are normally mmap()-ed from a file.
- Write-only write() IO buffers that are only accessed via write().
(kernel-space accesses ignore pkey values.)
glibc's buffered IO might possibly make use of this, for write-only
fopen()ed files.
- Language runtimes could improve their security by eliminating W+X mappings of
JIT-ed code, instead they could use two alias mappings: one alias is a
true-exec (--x) mapping, the other (separately mapped, separately randomized)
mapping is a true write-only (--x) mapping for generated code.
In addition to the security advantage, another advantage would be increased
robustness: no accidental corruption of IO (or JIT) buffers via read-only
codepaths.
Another advantage would be that it would utilize pkeys without having to teach
applications to use new system calls.
Thanks,
Ingo
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-16 17:49 [PATCH 00/26] [RFCv2] x86: Memory Protection Keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 04/26] x86, pku: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 02/26] x86, pkeys: Add Kconfig option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 03/26] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 01/26] x86, fpu: add placeholder for Processor Trace XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 05/26] x86, pkey: add PKRU xsave fields and data structure(s) Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 19:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 19:58 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 06/26] x86, pkeys: PTE bits for storing protection key Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 07/26] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 08/26] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 11/26] x86, pkeys: add functions for set/fetch PKRU Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:22 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 10/26] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:21 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:29 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-23 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:41 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-25 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25 23:18 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-26 6:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27 22:39 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 5:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:15 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:25 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-28 19:32 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 09/26] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 14/26] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 12/26] mm: factor out VMA fault permission checking Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 13/26] mm: simplify get_user_pages() PTE bit handling Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 16/26] x86, pkeys: dump PKRU with other kernel registers Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 15/26] x86, pkeys: optimize fault handling in access_error() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 17/26] x86, pkeys: dump PTE pkey in /proc/pid/smaps Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 20/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm: implement new mprotect_pkey() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 18/26] x86, pkeys: add Kconfig prompt to existing config option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 19/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm, multi-arch: pass a protection key in to calc_vm_flag_bits() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 21/26] [NEWSYSCALL] x86: wire up mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 22/26] [HIJACKPROT] mm: Pass the 4-bit protection key in via PROT_ bits to syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 23/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: add x86 version of arch_validate_prot() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 25/26] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 24/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: mask off pkeys bits in mprotect() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-09-20 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-21 4:34 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24 9:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 19:10 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24 19:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-25 7:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25 6:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 20:39 ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 20:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02 6:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 17:50 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-03 7:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-06 23:28 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-16 15:12 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 18:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 19:11 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 23:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 20:58 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:33 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:35 ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 22:39 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-01 22:56 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02 1:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 18:08 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02 7:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03 6:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 11:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 12:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-03 6:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 22:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02 6:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03 8:17 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-10-07 20:24 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07 20:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-07 20:47 ` Dave Hansen
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