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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 13:54:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109185401.GB28507@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151109182840.GJ31308@esperanza>

Hello, Vladmir.

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 09:28:40PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > I am _all_ for this semantic I am just not sure what to do with the
> > legacy kmem controller. Can we change its semantic? If we cannot do that
> 
> I think we can. If somebody reports a "bug" caused by this change, i.e.
> basically notices that something that used to be accounted is not any
> longer, it will be trivial to fix by adding __GFP_ACCOUNT where
> appropriate. If it is not, e.g. if accounting of objects of a particular
> type leads to intense false-sharing, we would end up disabling
> accounting for it anyway.

I agree too, if anything is meaningfully broken by the flip, it just
indicates that the whitelist needs to be expanded; however, I wonder
whether this would be done better at slab level rather than per
allocation site.

A class of objects which can consume noticeable amount of memory which
can be attributed to userland is likely to be on its own slab already
or separating it out to its own slab is likely to be a good idea.
Marking those slabs as kmemcg accounted seems better suited to the
semantics - it's always about classes of objects - and less
error-prone than marking individual allocation sites.

This also reduces the number of slabs to worry about and more
importantly makes it clear which slabs need to be replicated for
kmemcg accounting from the beginning and the slab part of
implementation can be far simpler / more static.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-09 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-07 20:07 [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 1/5] Revert "kernfs: do not account ino_ida allocations to memcg" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 3/5] memcg: only account kmem allocations marked as __GFP_ACCOUNT Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmalloc: allow to account vmalloc to memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 5/5] Account certain kmem allocations " Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 14:39   ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-10  8:07     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 13:23       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:08 ` [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 16:45   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-09 18:28   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:54     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-11-09 19:27       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:32         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 20:12           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 20:30             ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-10  7:49               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-11  8:12     ` Michal Hocko

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