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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/13] mm: memcontrol: hook up vmpressure to socket pressure
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:13:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151130161346.GD24704@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151130155838.GB30243@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:58:38AM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 02:36:28PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > Suppose we have the following cgroup configuration.
> > 
> > A __ B
> >   \_ C
> > 
> > A is empty (which is natural for the unified hierarchy AFAIU). B has
> > some workload running in it, and C generates socket pressure. Due to the
> > socket pressure coming from C we start reclaim in A, which results in
> > thrashing of B, but we might not put sockets under pressure in A or C,
> > because vmpressure does not account pages scanned/reclaimed in B when
> > generating a vmpressure event for A or C. This might result in
> > aggressive reclaim and thrashing in B w/o generating a signal for C to
> > stop growing socket buffers.
> > 
> > Do you think such a situation is possible? If so, would it make sense to
> > switch to post-order walk in shrink_zone and pass sub-tree
> > scanned/reclaimed stats to vmpressure for each scanned memcg?
> 
> In that case the LRU pages in C would experience pressure as well,
> which would then reign in the sockets in C. There must be some LRU
> pages in there, otherwise who is creating socket pressure?
> 
> The same applies to shrinkers. All secondary reclaim is driven by LRU
> reclaim results.
> 
> I can see that there is some unfairness in distributing memcg reclaim
> pressure purely based on LRU size, because there are scenarios where
> the auxiliary objects (incl. sockets, but mostly shrinker pools)
> amount to a significant portion of the group's memory footprint. But
> substitute group for NUMA node and we've had this behavior for
> years. I'm not sure it's actually a problem in practice.
> 

Fiar enough. Let's wait until we hit this problem in real world then.

The patch looks good to me.

Reviewed-by: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>

Thanks,
Vladimir

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      reply	other threads:[~2015-11-30 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-24 21:51 [PATCH 00/13] mm: memcontrol: account socket memory in unified hierarchy v4 Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 01/13] mm: memcontrol: export root_mem_cgroup Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 02/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: properly detect ancestor socket pressure Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 03/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: remove bogus hierarchy pressure propagation Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 04/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: protect all tcp_memcontrol calls by jump-label Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 05/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: remove dead per-memcg count of allocated sockets Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 06/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: simplify the per-memcg limit access Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:26   ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:51 ` [PATCH 07/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: sanitize tcp memory accounting callbacks Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:28   ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:52 ` [PATCH 08/13] net: tcp_memcontrol: simplify linkage between socket and page counter Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:28   ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:52 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm: memcontrol: generalize the socket accounting jump label Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:29   ` David Miller
2015-11-30 21:08   ` Jason Baron
2015-11-30 21:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-30 22:28       ` Jason Baron
2015-11-30 22:46         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-24 21:52 ` [PATCH 10/13] mm: memcontrol: do not account memory+swap on unified hierarchy Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:29   ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:52 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: memcontrol: move socket code for unified hierarchy accounting Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:29   ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:58 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: memcontrol: account socket memory in unified hierarchy memory controller Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:30   ` David Miller
2015-11-30 10:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-30 15:26     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-30 17:08       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-24 21:59 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: memcontrol: hook up vmpressure to socket pressure Johannes Weiner
2015-11-25 16:30   ` David Miller
2015-11-30 11:36   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-30 15:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-30 16:13       ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]

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