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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:41:59 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160314074159.GA542@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160314061759.GC10675@bbox>

Hello Minchan,

On (03/14/16 15:17), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > demonstrates that class-896 has 12/26=46% of unused pages, class-2336 has
> > 1648/4932=33% of unused pages, etc. And the more classes we will have as
> > 'normal' classes (more than one object per-zspage) the bigger this problem
> > will grow. The existing compaction relies on a user space (user can trigger
> > compaction via `compact' zram's sysfs attr) or a shrinker; it does not
> > happen automatically.
> > 
> > This patch introduces a 'watermark' value of unused pages and schedules a
> > compaction work on a per-class basis once class's fragmentation becomes
> > too big. So compaction is not performed in current I/O operation context,
> > but in workqueue workers later.
> > 
> > The current watermark is set to 40% -- if class has 40+% of `freeable'
> > pages then compaction work will be scheduled.
> 
> Could you explain why you select per-class watermark?

yes,

we do less work this way - scan and compact only one class, instead
of locking and compacting all of them; which sounds reasonable.


> Because my plan was we kick background work based on total fragmented memory
> (i.e., considering used_pages/allocated_pages < some threshold).

if we know that a particular class B is fragmented and the rest of them
are just fine, then we can compact only that class B, skipping extra job.

> IOW, if used_pages/allocated_pages is less than some ratio,
> we kick background job with marking index of size class just freed
> and then the job scans size_class from the index circulary.
>
> As well, we should put a upper bound to scan zspages to make it
> deterministic.

you mean that __zs_compact() instead of just checking per-class
zs_can_compact() should check global pool ratio and bail out if
compaction of class Z has dropped the overall fragmentation ratio
below some watermark?

my logic was that
 -- suppose we have class A with fragmentation ratio 49% and class B
 with 8% of wasted pages, so the overall pool fragmentation is
 (50 + 10)/ 2 < 30%, while we still have almost 50% fragmented class.
 if the aim is to reduce the memory wastage then per-class watermarks
 seem to be more flexible.

> What do you think about it?

	-ss

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 14:45 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/5] mm/zsmalloc: rework compaction and increase density Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:17   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  7:41     ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-03-14  8:20       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:46       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  1:33         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  6:17           ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-17  1:29             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  1:17               ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  2:00                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  4:03                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  4:10                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:32   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  7:45     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:52       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  1:05         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  2:19           ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:53   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  8:08     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:54       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 4/5] zram: use zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 5/5] mm/zsmalloc: reduce the number of huge classes Sergey Senozhatsky

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