From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:33:03 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160315013303.GC2126@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315004611.GA19514@bbox>
On (03/15/16 09:46), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > yes,
> >
> > we do less work this way - scan and compact only one class, instead
> > of locking and compacting all of them; which sounds reasonable.
>
> Hmm,, It consumes more memory(i.e., sizeof(work_struct) + sizeof(void *)
> + sizeof(bool) * NR_CLASS) as well as kicking many work up to NR_CLASS.
yes, it does. not really happy with it either.
> I didn't test your patch but I guess I can make worst case scenario.
>
> * make every class fragmented under 40%
> * On the 40% boundary, repeated alloc/free of every class so every free
> can schedule work if it was not scheduled.
> * Although class fragment is too high, it's not a problem if the class
> consumes small amount of memory.
hm, in this scenario both solutions are less than perfect. we jump
X times over 40% margin, we have X*NR_CLASS compaction scans in the
end. the difference is that we queue less works, yes, but we don't
have to use workqueue in the first place; compaction can be done
asynchronously by a pool's dedicated kthread. so we will just
wake_up() the process.
> I guess it can make degradation if I try to test on zsmalloc
> microbenchmark.
>
> As well, although I don't know workqueue internal well, thesedays,
> I saw a few of mails related to workqueue(maybe, vmstat) and it had
> some trouble if system memory pressure is heavy IIRC.
yes, you are right. wq provides WQ_MEM_RECLAIM bit for this
case -- a special kthread that it will wake up to process works.
> My approach is as follows, for exmaple.
>
> Let's make a global ratio. Let's say it's 4M.
ok. should it depend on pool size? min(20% of pool_size, XXMB)?
> If zs_free(or something) realizes current fragment is over 4M,
> kick compacion backgroud job.
yes, zs_free() is the only place that introduces fragmentation.
> The job scans from highest to lower class and compact zspages
> in each size_class until it meets high watermark(e.g, 4M + 4M /2 =
> 6M fragment ratio).
ok.
> And in the middle of background compaction, if we find it's too
> many scan(e.g., 256 zspages or somethings), just bail out the
> job for the latency and reschedule it for next time. At the next
> time, we can continue from the last size class.
ok. I'd probably prefer more simple rules here:
-- bail out because it has compacted XXMB
so the fragmentation ratio is *expected* to be below the watermark
-- nothing to scan anymore
compaction is executed concurrently with zs_free()/zs_malloc()
calls, it's harder to control/guarantee some global state.
overall, no real objections. this approach can work, I think. need
to test it.
> I know your concern is unncessary scan but I'm not sure it can
> affect performance although we try to evaluate performance with
> microbenchmark. It just loops and check with zs_can_compact
> for 255 size class.
-ss
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-15 1:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-03 14:45 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/5] mm/zsmalloc: rework compaction and increase density Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 6:17 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14 7:41 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 8:20 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 0:46 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15 1:33 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-03-15 6:17 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-17 1:29 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18 1:17 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18 2:00 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18 4:03 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18 4:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14 7:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 0:52 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15 1:05 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 2:19 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 6:53 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14 8:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 0:54 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 4/5] zram: use zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 5/5] mm/zsmalloc: reduce the number of huge classes Sergey Senozhatsky
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