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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:19:57 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160315021957.GA25154@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315010542.GB2126@swordfish>

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:05:42AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (03/15/16 09:52), Minchan Kim wrote:
> [..]
> > > > I suggested to remove shrinker compaction but while I review your
> > > > first patch in this thread, I thought we need upper-bound to
> > > > compact zspage so background work can bail out for latency easily.
> > > > IOW, the work could give up the job. In such case, we might need
> > > > fall-back scheme to continue the job. And I think that could be
> > > > a shrinker.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think?
> > > 
> > > wouldn't this unnecessarily complicate the whole thing? we would
> > > have
> > >  a) a compaction that can be triggered by used space
> > 
> > Maybe, user space? :)
> 
> haha, yes!  sorry, I do quite a lot of typos.
> 
> > >  b) a compaction from zs_free() that can bail out
> > >  c) a compaction triggered by the shrinker.
> > > 
> > > all 3 three can run simultaneously.
> > 
> > Yeb.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _if_ we can keep every class below its watermark, we can reduce the
> > > need of "c)".
> > 
> > But the problem is timing. We cannot guarantee when background
> > compaction triggers while shrinker is interop with VM so we should
> > do the job instantly for the system.
> 
> we can have pool's compaction-kthread that we will wake_up()
> every time we need a compaction, with no dependency on workqueue
> or shrinker.

Hmm, I don't think it can work either because wake_up doesn't
guarantee instant execution of the thread.
I think it would be better to have both direct/background
compaction.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-15  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 14:45 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/5] mm/zsmalloc: rework compaction and increase density Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:17   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  7:41     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  8:20       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:46       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  1:33         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  6:17           ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-17  1:29             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  1:17               ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  2:00                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  4:03                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  4:10                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:32   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  7:45     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:52       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  1:05         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  2:19           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:53   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  8:08     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:54       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 4/5] zram: use zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 5/5] mm/zsmalloc: reduce the number of huge classes Sergey Senozhatsky

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