From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:29:30 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160317012929.GA489@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315061723.GB25154@bbox>
Hello Minchan,
On (03/15/16 15:17), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > hm, in this scenario both solutions are less than perfect. we jump
> > X times over 40% margin, we have X*NR_CLASS compaction scans in the
> > end. the difference is that we queue less works, yes, but we don't
> > have to use workqueue in the first place; compaction can be done
> > asynchronously by a pool's dedicated kthread. so we will just
> > wake_up() the process.
>
> Hmm, kthread is over-engineered to me. If we want to create new kthread
> in the system, I guess we should persuade many people to merge in.
> Surely, we should have why it couldn't be done by others(e.g., workqueue).
>
> I think your workqueue approach is good to me.
> Only problem I can see with it is we cannot start compaction when
> we want instantly so my conclusion is we need both direct and
> background compaction.
well, if we will keep the shrinker callbacks then it's not such a huge
issue, IMHO. for that type of forward progress guarantees we can have
our own, dedicated, workqueue with a rescuer thread (WQ_MEM_RECLAIM).
> > > If zs_free(or something) realizes current fragment is over 4M,
> > > kick compacion backgroud job.
> >
> > yes, zs_free() is the only place that introduces fragmentation.
> >
> > > The job scans from highest to lower class and compact zspages
> > > in each size_class until it meets high watermark(e.g, 4M + 4M /2 =
> > > 6M fragment ratio).
just thought... I think it'll be tricky to implement this. We scan classes
from HIGH class_size to SMALL class_size, counting fragmentation value and
re-calculating the global fragmentation all the time; once the global
fragmentation passes the watermark, we start compacting from HIGH to
SMALL. the problem here is that as soon as we calculated the class B
fragmentation index and moved to class A we can't trust B anymore. classes
are not locked and absolutely free to change. so the global fragmentation
index likely will be inaccurate.
so I'm thinking about triggering a global compaction from zs_free() (to
queue less works), but instead of calculating global watermark and compacting
afterwards, just compact every class that has fragmentation over XY% (for
example 30%). "iterate from HI to LO and compact everything that is too
fragmented".
we still need some sort of a pool->compact_ts timestamp to prevent too
frequent compaction jobs.
-ss
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-17 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-03 14:45 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/5] mm/zsmalloc: rework compaction and increase density Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 6:17 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14 7:41 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 8:20 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 0:46 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15 1:33 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 6:17 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-17 1:29 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-03-18 1:17 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18 2:00 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18 4:03 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18 4:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14 7:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 0:52 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15 1:05 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 2:19 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 6:53 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14 8:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 0:54 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 4/5] zram: use zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 5/5] mm/zsmalloc: reduce the number of huge classes Sergey Senozhatsky
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