From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, "Li,
Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"quintela@redhat.com" <quintela@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: post-copy is broken?
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:23:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160415152330.GB3376@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160415134233.GG2229@work-vm>
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 02:42:33PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Kirill A. Shutemov (kirill@shutemov.name) wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:22:30PM -0400, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > Adding linux-mm too,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 01:34:41PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > * Andrea Arcangeli (aarcange@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The next suspect is the massive THP refcounting change that went
> > > > > upstream recently:
> > > >
> > > > > As further debug hint, can you try to disable THP and see if that
> > > > > makes the problem go away?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this seems to be the problem (cc'ing in Kirill).
> > > >
> > > > 122afea9626ab3f717b250a8dd3d5ebf57cdb56c - works (just before Kirill disables THP)
> > > > 61f5d698cc97600e813ca5cf8e449b1ea1c11492 - breaks (when THP is reenabled)
> > > >
> > > > It's pretty reliable; as you say disabling THP makes it work again
> > > > and putting it back to THP/madvise mode makes it break. And you need
> > > > to test on a machine with some free ram to make sure THP has a chance
> > > > to have happened.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure of all of the rework that happened in that series,
> > > > but my reading of it is that splitting of THP pages gets deferred;
> > > > so I wonder if when I do the madvise to turn THP off, if it's actually
> > > > still got THP pages and thus we end up with a whole THP mapped
> > > > when I'm expecting to be userfaulting those pages.
> > >
> > > Good thing at least I didn't make UFFDIO_COPY THP aware yet so there's
> > > less variables (as no user was interested to handle userfaults at THP
> > > granularity yet, and from userland such an improvement would be
> > > completely invisible in terms of API, so if an user starts doing that
> > > we can just optimize the kernel for it, criu restore could do that as
> > > the faults will come from disk-I/O, when network is involved THP
> > > userfaults wouldn't have a great tradeoff with regard to the increased
> > > fault latency).
> > >
> > > I suspect there is an handle_userfault missing somewhere in connection
> > > with trans_huge_pmd splits (not anymore THP splits) that you're doing
> > > with MADV_DONTNEED to zap those pages in the destination that got
> > > redirtied in source during the last precopy stage. Or more simply
> > > MADV_DONTNEED isn't zapping all the right ptes after the trans huge
> > > pmd got splitted.
> > >
> > > The fact the page isn't splitted shouldn't matter too much, all we care
> > > about is the pte triggers handle_userfault after MADV_DONTNEED.
> > >
> > > The userfaultfd testcase in the kernel isn't exercising this case
> > > unfortunately, that should probably be improved too, so there is a
> > > simpler way to reproduce than running precopy before postcopy in qemu.
> >
> > I've tested current Linus' tree and v4.5 using qemu postcopy test case for
> > both x86-64 and i386 and it never failed for me:
> >
> > /x86_64/postcopy: first_byte = 7e last_byte = 7d hit_edge = 1 OK
> > OK
> > /i386/postcopy: first_byte = f6 last_byte = f5 hit_edge = 1 OK
> > OK
> >
> > I've run it directly, setting relevant QTEST_QEMU_BINARY.
>
> Interesting; it's failing reliably for me - but only with a reasonably
> freshly booted machine (so that the pages get THPd).
The same here. Freshly booted machine with 64GiB ram. I've checked
/proc/vmstat: huge pages were allocated
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Kirill A. Shutemov
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2016-04-14 16:22 ` post-copy is broken? Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-15 12:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-15 13:42 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-15 15:23 ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2016-04-15 16:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-18 9:50 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 9:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-18 10:06 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 10:15 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-18 10:33 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 13:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-18 17:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-20 17:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-21 19:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-27 14:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-28 2:59 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-28 8:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-15 22:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-18 9:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-18 9:58 ` Li, Liang Z
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