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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Re-enable OOM killer using timeout.
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:11:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160427111147.GI2179@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201604271943.GAC60432.FFJHtFVSOQOOLM@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed 27-04-16 19:43:08, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 25-04-16 11:55:08, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Sun 24-04-16 23:19:03, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > I have seen that patch. I didn't get to review it properly yet as I am
> > > > > still travelling. From a quick view I think it is conflating two things
> > > > > together. I could see arguments for the panic part but I do not consider
> > > > > the move-to-kill-another timeout as justified. I would have to see a
> > > > > clear indication this is actually useful for real life usecases.
> > > > 
> > > > You admit that it is possible that the TIF_MEMDIE thread is blocked at
> > > > unkillable wait (due to memory allocation requests by somebody else) but
> > > > the OOM reaper cannot reap the victim's memory (due to holding the mmap_sem
> > > > for write), don't you?
> > > 
> > > I have never said this to be impossible.
> > 
> > And just to clarify. I consider unkillable sleep while holding mmap_sem
> > for write to be a _bug_ which should be fixed rather than worked around
> > by some timeout based heuristics.
> 
> Excuse me, but I think that it is difficult to fix.
> Since currently it is legal to block kswapd from memory reclaim paths
> ( http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20160211225929.GU14668@dastard ) and there
> are allocation requests with mmap_sem held for write, you will need to
> make memory reclaim paths killable. (I wish memory reclaim paths being
> completely killable because fatal_signal_pending(current) check done in
> throttle_direct_reclaim() is racy.)

Be it difficult or not it is something that should be fixed.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-27 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-19 15:06 [PATCH] mm,oom: Re-enable OOM killer using timeout Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-19 20:07 ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-19 21:55   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-20 10:37     ` [PATCH v2] " Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-25 11:47       ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-26 14:00         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-26 14:31           ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-27 10:43             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-20 14:47     ` [PATCH] " Michal Hocko
2016-04-21 11:49       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-21 13:07         ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-24 14:19           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-25  9:55             ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-26 13:54               ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-27 10:43                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-27 11:11                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-05-14  0:39                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-05-16 14:18                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-17 11:08                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-05-17 12:51                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-26 14:00               ` Tetsuo Handa

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