From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: GUP guarantees wrt to userspace mappings
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:11:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160502191141.GE12310@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160502152249.GA5827@gmail.com>
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 05:22:49PM +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> I think this is still fine as it means that device will read only and thus
> you can migrate to different page (ie the guest is not expecting to read back
> anything writen by the device and device writting to the page would be illegal
> and a proper IOMMU would forbid it). So it is like direct-io when you write
> from anonymous memory to a file.
Agreed. write=1 is so that if there's an O_DIRECT write() and the app
is only reading, there will be no COW generated on shared anonymous
memory/MAP_PRIVATE-filebacked.
> Now that i think again about it, i don't think it exist. pmdp_collapse_flush()
> will flush the tlb and thus send an IPI but get_user_pages_fast() can't be
> preempted so the flush will have to wait for existing get_user_pages_fast() to
> complete. Or am i missunderstanding flush ? So khugepaged is safe from GUP_fast
> point of view like the comment, inside it, says.
This is exactly correct, there's no race window.
The IPI (or the quiescent point in case of the gup_fast RCU version)
are the things that flush away get_user_pages_fast with pmdp_collapse_flush().
> Well you can't not rely on special vma here. Qemu alloc anonymous memory and
> hand it over to guest, then a guest driver (ie runing in the guest not on the
> host) try to map that memory and need valid DMA address for it, this is when
> vfio (on the host kernel) starts pining memory of regular anonymous vma (on
> the host). That same memory might back some special vma with ->mmap callback
> but in the guest. Point is there is no driver on the host and no special vma.
> From host point of view this is anonymous memory, but from guest POV it is
> just memory.
It's quite important it stays regular tmpfs/anon as device memory is
managed by the device and we'd lose everything (KSM/swapping/NUMA
balancing/compaction/memory-hotunplug/CMA etc..).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-02 19:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-28 16:20 [BUG] vfio device assignment regression with THP ref counting redesign Alex Williamson
2016-04-28 18:17 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-28 18:58 ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-28 23:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-29 0:44 ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-29 0:51 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-29 2:45 ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-29 7:06 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-29 15:12 ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-29 16:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-29 22:34 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-02 10:41 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 11:15 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-05-02 12:14 ` GUP guarantees wrt to userspace mappings redesign Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 13:39 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-05-02 15:00 ` GUP guarantees wrt to userspace mappings Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 15:22 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-05-02 16:12 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 19:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-02 19:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2016-05-02 19:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-02 14:15 ` GUP guarantees wrt to userspace mappings redesign Oleg Nesterov
2016-05-02 16:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 16:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-05-02 18:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 17:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-05-02 18:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-02 15:23 ` [BUG] vfio device assignment regression with THP ref counting redesign Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-02 16:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-02 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-05 1:19 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-05 14:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-05 15:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-05 15:11 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-05 15:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-05-06 7:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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