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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Vinayak Menon <vinmenon@codeaurora.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: make faultaround produce old ptes
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:43:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160518084310.GF21654@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160518083348.GA23276@node.shutemov.name>

On Wed 18-05-16 11:33:48, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:22:28AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 18-05-16 11:04:33, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:25:50AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Tue 17-05-16 15:32:46, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > > Currently, faultaround code produces young pte. This can screw up vmscan
> > > > > behaviour[1], as it makes vmscan think that these pages are hot and not
> > > > > push them out on first round.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let modify faultaround to produce old pte, so they can easily be
> > > > > reclaimed under memory pressure.
> > > > 
> > > > Could you be more specific about what was the original issue that led to
> > > > this patch? I can understand that marking all those pages new might be
> > > > too optimistic but when does it matter actually? Sparsely access file
> > > > mmap?
> > > 
> > > Yes, sparse file access. Faultaround gets more pages mapped and all of
> > > them are young. Under memory pressure, this makes vmscan to swap out anon
> > > pages instead or drop other page cache pages which otherwise stay
> > > resident.
> > 
> > I am wondering whether it would make more sense to do the fault around
> > only when chances are that the memory will be used. E.g. ~VM_RAND_READ
> > resp VM_SEQ_READ rather than unconditionally.
> 
> I'm not sure about this.
> 
> The idea of faularound is that we already have almost everything in our
> hands to map additional pages for very little cost: all required locks
> has been taken and radix-tree look up will be done anyway.

Fair enough. Meddling pte young bits sounds like a better approach then.

Feel free to add
Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-18  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-17 12:32 [PATCH] mm: make faultaround produce old ptes Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-18  1:22 ` Minchan Kim
2016-05-18  1:27   ` Minchan Kim
2016-05-18  7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-18  8:04   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-18  8:22     ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-18  8:33       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-18  8:43         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-05-19  4:27 ` Rik van Riel

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