linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exit: clear TIF_MEMDIE after exit_task_work
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:11:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160613210945-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160613115041.GG6518@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 01:50:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 07-06-16 14:50:14, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 14-03-16 17:39:43, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Tue 01-03-16 19:20:24, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 06:17:58PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > > Sorry, I could have been more verbose... The code would have to make sure
> > > > > that the mm is still alive before calling g-u-p by
> > > > > atomic_inc_not_zero(&mm->mm_users) and fail if the user count dropped to
> > > > > 0 in the mean time. See how fs/proc/task_mmu.c does that (proc_mem_open
> > > > > + m_start + m_stop.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The biggest advanatage would be that the mm address space pin would be
> > > > > only for the particular operation. Not sure whether that is possible in
> > > > > the driver though. Anyway pinning the mm for a potentially unbounded
> > > > > amount of time doesn't sound too nice.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm that would be another atomic on data path ...
> > > > I'd have to explore that.
> > > 
> > > Did you have any chance to look into this?
> > 
> > So this is my take to get rid of mm_users pinning for an unbounded
> > amount of time. This is even not compile tested. I am not sure how to
> > handle when the mm goes away while there are still work items pending.
> > It seems this is not handled current anyway and only shouts with a
> > warning so this shouldn't cause a new regression AFAICS. I am not
> > familiar with the vnet code at all so I might be missing many things,
> > though. Does the below sound even remotely reasonable to you Michael?
> 
> I have checked the vnet code and it doesn't seem to rely on
> copy_from_user/get_user AFAICS. Other users of use_mm() need to copy to
> the userspace only as well.

E.g. vhost_get_vq_desc calls __get_user quite a lot.
I think it should be safe for it to fail, but
not to trigger warnings/errors.

> So we should be perfectly safe to OOM reap
> address space even when it is shared by the kthread [1] so this is
> not really needed for the OOM correctness purpose. It would be much
> nicer if the kthread didn't pin the mm for two long outside of the OOM
> handling as well of course but that lowers the priority of the change.
> 
> [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20160613112348.GC6518@dhcp22.suse.cz
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-13 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-29 17:02 [PATCH] exit: clear TIF_MEMDIE after exit_task_work Vladimir Davydov
2016-02-29 18:21 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 18:44   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 15:52 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 15:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-01 16:08     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 16:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-01 16:22       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-01 16:35         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 16:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-01 17:17             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 17:20               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-14 16:39                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-07 12:50                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-13 11:50                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-13 13:52                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-06-13 14:00                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-13 18:11                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20160613210945-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com \
    --to=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    --cc=vdavydov@virtuozzo.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).