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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] vhost, mm: make sure that oom_reaper doesn't reap memory read by vhost
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 17:18:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160703151829.GA28667@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160703140904.GA26908@redhat.com>

On 07/03, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 03:47:19PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 07/01, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > >
> > > vhost driver relies on copy_from_user/get_user from a kernel thread.
> > > This makes it impossible to reap the memory of an oom victim which
> > > shares mm with the vhost kernel thread because it could see a zero
> > > page unexpectedly and theoretically make an incorrect decision visible
> > > outside of the killed task context.
> >
> > And I still can't understand how, but let me repeat that I don't understand
> > this code at all.
> >
> > > To quote Michael S. Tsirkin:
> > > : Getting an error from __get_user and friends is handled gracefully.
> > > : Getting zero instead of a real value will cause userspace
> > > : memory corruption.
> >
> > Which userspace memory corruption? We are going to kill the dev->mm owner,
> > the task which did ioctl(VHOST_SET_OWNER) and (at first glance) the task
> > who communicates with the callbacks fired by vhost_worker().
> >
> > Michael, could you please spell why should we care?
>
> I am concerned that
> - oom victim is sharing memory with another task
> - getting incorrect value from ring read makes vhost
>   change that shared memory

Well, we are going to kill all tasks which share this memory. I mean, ->mm.
If "sharing memory with another task" means, say, a file, then this memory
won't be unmapped (if shared).

So let me ask again... Suppose, say, QEMU does VHOST_SET_OWNER and then we
unmap its (anonymous/non-shared) memory. Who else's memory can be corrupted?

Sorry, I simply do not know what vhost does, quite possibly a stupid question.

> Having said all that, how about we just add some kind of per-mm
> notifier list, and let vhost know that owner is going away so
> it should stop looking at memory?
>
> Seems cleaner than looking at flags at each memory access,
> since vhost has its own locking.

Agreed... although of course I do not understand how this should work. But
looks better in any case..

Or perhaps we can change oom_kill_process() to send SIGKILL to kthreads as
well, this should not have any effect unless kthread does allow_signal(SIGKILL),
then we can change vhost_worker() to catch SIGKILL and react somehow. Not sure
this is really possible.

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-03 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-01  9:26 [RFC PATCH 0/6] fortify oom killer even more Michal Hocko
2016-07-01  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] oom: keep mm of the killed task available Michal Hocko
2016-07-03  2:45   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07  8:24     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 11:48       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 13:32         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-01  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] oom, suspend: fix oom_killer_disable vs. pm suspend properly Michal Hocko
2016-07-01  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] exit, oom: postpone exit_oom_victim to later Michal Hocko
2016-07-01  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] oom, oom_reaper: consider mmget_not_zero as a failure Michal Hocko
2016-07-01  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] vhost, mm: make sure that oom_reaper doesn't reap memory read by vhost Michal Hocko
2016-07-03 13:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-03 14:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-03 15:18       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2016-07-03 15:30         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-03 16:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-03 21:17             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-07  8:28               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 15:38                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-08 12:29                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-11 14:14                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-12 14:33                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-07  8:42         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 16:46           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-07  8:39       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22 11:09         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-01  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] oom, oom_reaper: allow to reap mm shared by the kthreads Michal Hocko

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