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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	rientjes@google.com, vdavydov@parallels.com, mst@redhat.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, mhocko@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] mm,oom_reaper: Remove pointless kthread_run() failure check.
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 19:10:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160703171022.GA31065@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201607040103.DEB48914.HQFFJFOOOVtSLM@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On 07/04, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 07/03, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > >
> > > If kthread_run() in oom_init() fails due to reasons other than OOM
> > > (e.g. no free pid is available), userspace processes won't be able to
> > > start as well.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > The kernel will boot with or without your change, but
> >
> > > Therefore, trying to continue with error message is
> > > also pointless.
> >
> > Can't understand...
> >
> > I think this warning makes sense. And since you removed the oom_reaper_the
> > check in wake_oom_reaper(), the kernel will leak every task_struct passed
> > to wake_oom_reaper() ?
>
> We are trying to prove that OOM livelock is impossible for CONFIG_MMU=y
> kernels (as long as OOM killer is invoked) because the OOM reaper always
> gives feedback to the OOM killer, right? Then, preserving code which
> continues without OOM reaper no longer makes sense.
>
> In the past discussion, I suggested Michal to use BUG_ON() or panic()
> ( http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20151127123525.GG2493@dhcp22.suse.cz ). At that
> time, we chose continue with pr_err(). If you think that kthread_run()
> failure in oom_init() will ever happen, I can change my patch to call
> BUG_ON() or panic(). I don't like continuing without OOM reaper.

And probably this makes sense, but

> Anyway, [PATCH 8/8] in this series removes get_task_struct().
> Thus, the kernel won't leak every task_struct after all.

which I can't read yet. I am still trying to clone linux-net, currently
my internet connection is very slow.

Anyway, this means that this 1/1 patch depends on 8/8, but 0/8 says

	[PATCH 1/8] can be sent to current linux.git as a clean up.

IOW, this patch doesn't look correct without other changes?

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-03 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-03  2:35 [PATCH 0/8] Change OOM killer to use list of mm_struct Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-03  2:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm,oom_reaper: Remove pointless kthread_run() failure check Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-03 12:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-03 16:03     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-03 17:10       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2016-07-03 21:53         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-04 11:13           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-07 11:14           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-03  2:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm,oom_reaper: Reduce find_lock_task_mm() usage Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 11:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-03  2:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm,oom: Use list of mm_struct used by OOM victims Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-04 10:39   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-04 12:50     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-04 18:25       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-05 10:43         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-05 20:52           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-06  8:53             ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-06 11:43               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 11:31   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-03  2:39 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm,oom: Remove OOM_SCAN_ABORT case Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-03  2:40 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm,oom: Remove unused signal_struct->oom_victims Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 14:03   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-03  2:40 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm,oom_reaper: Stop clearing TIF_MEMDIE on remote thread Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 14:06   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 16:10     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 16:54       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-03  2:41 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm,oom_reaper: Pass OOM victim's comm and pid values via mm_struct Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-03  2:41 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm,oom_reaper: Make OOM reaper use list of mm_struct Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-04 10:40   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-07 14:15   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 11:04 ` [PATCH 0/8] Change OOM killer to " Michal Hocko

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