From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] vhost, mm: make sure that oom_reaper doesn't reap memory read by vhost
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 14:29:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160708122948.GA4733@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160707183848-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
On 07/07, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 10:28:12AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> > Just to make sure we are all at the same page. I guess the scenario is
> > as follows. The owner of the mm has ring and other statefull information
> > in the private memory but consumers living with their own mm consume
> > some data from a shared memory segments (e.g. files). The worker would
> > misinterpret statefull information (zeros rather than the original
> > content) and would copy invalid/corrupted data to the consumer. Am I
> > correct?
>
> Exactly.
Michael, let me ask again.
But what if we simply kill the owner of this mm? Yes, if we dont't unmap its
memory then vhost_worker() can't read the wrong zero from anonymous vma.
But the killed process obviously won't be able to update this statefull info
after that, it will be frozen. Are you saying this can't affect other apps
which share the memory with the (killed) mm owner?
IOW. If we kill a process, this can affect other applications anyway. Just for
example, suppose that this process takes a non-robust futex in the shared memory
segment. After that other users of this futex will hang forever.
So do you think that this particular "vhost" problem is really worse and we must
specialy avoid it?
If yes, note that this means that any process which can do VHOST_SET_OWNER becomes
"oom-unkillable" to some degree, and this doesn't look right. It can spawn another
CLONE_FILES process and this will block fops->release() which (iiuc) should stop
the kernel thread which pins the memory hog's memory.
Oleg.
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-01 9:26 [RFC PATCH 0/6] fortify oom killer even more Michal Hocko
2016-07-01 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] oom: keep mm of the killed task available Michal Hocko
2016-07-03 2:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 11:48 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-07 13:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-01 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] oom, suspend: fix oom_killer_disable vs. pm suspend properly Michal Hocko
2016-07-01 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] exit, oom: postpone exit_oom_victim to later Michal Hocko
2016-07-01 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] oom, oom_reaper: consider mmget_not_zero as a failure Michal Hocko
2016-07-01 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] vhost, mm: make sure that oom_reaper doesn't reap memory read by vhost Michal Hocko
2016-07-03 13:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-03 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-03 15:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-03 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-03 16:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-03 21:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-07 8:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-08 12:29 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2016-07-11 14:14 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-12 14:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-07 8:42 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-07 16:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-07 8:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-01 9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] oom, oom_reaper: allow to reap mm shared by the kthreads Michal Hocko
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