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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Ondrej Kozina <okozina@redhat.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:53:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160721145309.GR26379@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160721121300.GA21806@cmpxchg.org>

On Thu 21-07-16 08:13:00, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:52:03AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Look, there are
> > $ git grep mempool_alloc | wc -l
> > 304
> > 
> > many users of this API and we do not want to flip the default behavior
> > which is there for more than 10 years. So far you have been arguing
> > about potential deadlocks and haven't shown any particular path which
> > would have a direct or indirect dependency between mempool and normal
> > allocator and it wouldn't be a bug. As the matter of fact the change
> > we are discussing here causes a regression. If you want to change the
> > semantic of mempool allocator then you are absolutely free to do so. In
> > a separate patch which would be discussed with IO people and other
> > users, though. But we _absolutely_ want to fix the regression first
> > and have a simple fix for 4.6 and 4.7 backports. At this moment there
> > are revert and patch 1 on the table.  The later one should make your
> > backtrace happy and should be only as a temporal fix until we find out
> > what is actually misbehaving on your systems. If you are not interested
> > to pursue that way I will simply go with the revert.
> 
> +1
> 
> It's very unlikely that decade-old mempool semantics are suddenly a
> fundamental livelock problem, when all the evidence we have is one
> hang and vague speculation. Given that the patch causes regressions,
> and that the bug is most likely elsewhere anyway, a full revert rather
> than merely-less-invasive mempool changes makes the most sense to me.

OK, fair enough. What do you think about the following then? Mikulas, I
have dropped your Tested-by and Reviewed-by because the patch is
different but unless you have hit the OOM killer then the testing
results should be same.
---

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-21 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-18  8:39 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mempool vs. page allocator interaction Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  8:41 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  8:41   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm, mempool: do not throttle PF_LESS_THROTTLE tasks Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 21:50     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-22  8:46     ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22  9:04       ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22  9:15       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-23  0:12         ` NeilBrown
2016-07-25  8:32           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 19:23             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-26  7:07               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27  3:43             ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2016-07-27 18:24               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 21:33                 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-28  7:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 12:53                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 14:34                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-04 18:49                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-12 12:32                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-13 17:34                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-14 10:34                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-15 16:15                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-23 21:11                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-24 13:29                                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-24 17:10                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-28 14:06                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 21:52           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-26  7:25             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27  4:02             ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2016-07-27 14:28               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 18:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 13:59                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 14:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-04 18:46                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 21:36                 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-19  2:00   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path David Rientjes
2016-07-19  7:49     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 13:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-19 14:19     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 22:01       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-19 20:45     ` David Rientjes
2016-07-20  8:15       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-20 21:06         ` David Rientjes
2016-07-21  8:52           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 12:13             ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-21 14:53               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-07-21 15:26                 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-22  1:41                 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22  6:37                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22 12:26                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 19:44                     ` Andrew Morton
2016-07-23 18:52                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-19 21:50   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-20  6:44     ` Michal Hocko

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