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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] vhost, mm: make sure that oom_reaper doesn't reap memory read by vhost
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:44:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160731094438.GA24353@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160729205620-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Fri 29-07-16 20:57:44, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 03:35:29PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 29-07-16 16:14:10, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 08:04:22AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Thu 28-07-16 23:41:53, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 09:42:33PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > > and the reader would hit a page fault
> > > > > > +	 * if it stumbled over a reaped memory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This last point I don't get. flag read could bypass data read
> > > > > if that happens data read could happen after unmap
> > > > > yes it might get a PF but you handle that, correct?
> > > > 
> > > > The point I've tried to make is that if the reader really page faults
> > > > then get_user will imply the full barrier already. If get_user didn't
> > > > page fault then the state of the flag is not really important because
> > > > the reaper shouldn't have touched it. Does it make more sense now or
> > > > I've missed your question?
> > > 
> > > Can task flag read happen before the get_user pagefault?
> > 
> > Do you mean?
> > 
> > get_user_mm()
> >   temp = false <- test_bit(MMF_UNSTABLE, &mm->flags)
> >   ret = __get_user(x, ptr)
> >   #PF
> >   if (!ret && temp) # misses the flag
> > 
> > The code is basically doing
> > 
> >   if (!__get_user() && test_bit(MMF_UNSTABLE, &mm->flags))
> > 
> > so test_bit part of the conditional cannot be evaluated before
> > __get_user() part is done. Compiler cannot reorder two depending
> > subconditions AFAIK.
> 
> But maybe the CPU can.

Are you sure? How does that differ from
	if (ptr && ptr->something)
construct?

Let's CC Paul. Just to describe the situation. We have the following
situation:

#define __get_user_mm(mm, x, ptr)				\
({								\
	int ___gu_err = __get_user(x, ptr);			\
	if (!___gu_err && test_bit(MMF_UNSTABLE, &mm->flags))	\
		___gu_err = -EFAULT;				\
	___gu_err;						\
})

and the oom reaper doing:

	set_bit(MMF_UNSTABLE, &mm->flags);

	for (vma = mm->mmap ; vma; vma = vma->vm_next) {
		unmap_page_range

I assume that write memory barrier between set_bit and unmap_page_range
is not really needed because unmapping should already imply the memory
barrier. A read memory barrier between __get_user and test_bit shouldn't
be really needed because we can tolerate a stale value if __get_user
didn't #PF because we haven't unmapped that address obviously. If we
unmapped it then __get_user would #PF and that should imply a full
memory barrier as well. Now the question is whether a CPU can speculate
and read the flag before we issue the #PF.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-31  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-28 19:42 [RFC PATCH 0/10] fortify oom killer even more Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm,oom_reaper: Reduce find_lock_task_mm() usage Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm,oom_reaper: Do not attempt to reap a task twice Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 03/10] oom: keep mm of the killed task available Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm, oom: get rid of signal_struct::oom_victims Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 05/10] kernel, oom: fix potential pgd_lock deadlock from __mmdrop Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 06/10] oom, suspend: fix oom_killer_disable vs. pm suspend properly Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm, oom: enforce exit_oom_victim on current task Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 08/10] exit, oom: postpone exit_oom_victim to later Michal Hocko
2016-07-30  8:20   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-31  9:35     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-31 10:19       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-01 10:46       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-08-01 11:33         ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-02 10:32           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-08-02 11:31             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 09/10] vhost, mm: make sure that oom_reaper doesn't reap memory read by vhost Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 20:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-29  6:04     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-29 13:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-29 13:35         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-29 17:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-31  9:44             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-08-12  9:42               ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-12 13:21                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-12 14:41                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-12 16:05                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-12 15:57                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-12 16:09                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-12 16:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-12 16:23                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-13  0:15                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-14  8:41                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-14 16:57                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-14 23:06                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-15  9:49                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-17 16:58                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-22 13:03                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-22 21:01                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-23  7:55                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-23  9:06                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-23 12:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-24 16:42                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-12  9:43         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-29 17:07   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-31  9:11     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 10/10] oom, oom_reaper: allow to reap mm shared by the kthreads Michal Hocko

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