From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: bail out in shrin_inactive_list
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 08:46:39 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160801234639.GA6770@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160729141130.GC2034@cmpxchg.org>
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:11:30AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 04:51:59PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > With node-lru, if there are enough reclaimable pages in highmem
> > but nothing in lowmem, VM can try to shrink inactive list although
> > the requested zone is lowmem.
> >
> > The problem is direct reclaimer scans inactive list is fulled with
> > highmem pages to find a victim page at a reqested zone or lower zones
> > but the result is that VM should skip all of pages. It just burns out
> > CPU. Even, many direct reclaimers are stalled by too_many_isolated
> > if lots of parallel reclaimer are going on although there are no
> > reclaimable memory in inactive list.
> >
> > I tried the experiment 4 times in 32bit 2G 8 CPU KVM machine
> > to get elapsed time.
> >
> > hackbench 500 process 2
> >
> > = Old =
> >
> > 1st: 289s 2nd: 310s 3rd: 112s 4th: 272s
> >
> > = Now =
> >
> > 1st: 31s 2nd: 132s 3rd: 162s 4th: 50s.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
> > ---
> > I believe proper fix is to modify get_scan_count. IOW, I think
> > we should introduce lruvec_reclaimable_lru_size with proper
> > classzone_idx but I don't know how we can fix it with memcg
> > which doesn't have zone stat now. should introduce zone stat
> > back to memcg? Or, it's okay to ignore memcg?
>
> You can fully ignore memcg and kmemcg. They only care about the
> balance sheet - page in, page out - never mind the type of page.
>
> If you are allocating a slab object and there is no physical memory,
> you'll wake kswapd or enter direct reclaim with the restricted zone
> index. If you then try to charge the freshly allocated page or object
> but hit the limit, kmem or otherwise, you'll enter memcg reclaim that
> is not restricted and only cares about getting usage + pages < limit.
Thanks. I got understood.
>
> I agree that it might be better to put this logic in get_scan_count()
> and set both nr[lru] as well as *lru_pages according to the pages that
> are eligible for the given reclaim index.
>
> if (global_reclaim(sc))
> add zone stats from 0 to sc->reclaim_idx
> else
> use lruvec_lru_size()
Yeb, I already sent it.
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1469604588-6051-2-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org
Thanks for the review, Johannes!
>
> It's a bit unfortunate that abstractions like the lruvec fall apart
> when we have to reconstruct zones ad-hoc now, but I don't see any
> obvious way around it...
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-25 7:51 [RFC] mm: bail out in shrin_inactive_list Minchan Kim
2016-07-25 9:29 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-26 1:21 ` Minchan Kim
2016-07-26 7:46 ` Mel Gorman
2016-07-26 8:27 ` Minchan Kim
2016-07-29 14:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-08-01 23:46 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
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