From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
Hillf Danton <hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com>,
'Alexander Viro' <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
'Michal Hocko' <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs/select: add vmalloc fallback for select(2)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:42:29 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160927214229.2b0b49ac@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DB010A97D@AcuExch.aculab.com>
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:37:24 +0000
David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> wrote:
> From: Nicholas Piggin
> > Sent: 27 September 2016 12:25
> > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:44:04 +0200
> > Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/23/2016 06:47 PM, Jason Baron wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On 09/23/2016 03:24 AM, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:42:53 +0800
> > > >> "Hillf Danton" <hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The select(2) syscall performs a kmalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL) where size grows
> > > >>>> with the number of fds passed. We had a customer report page allocation
> > > >>>> failures of order-4 for this allocation. This is a costly order, so it might
> > > >>>> easily fail, as the VM expects such allocation to have a lower-order fallback.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Such trivial fallback is vmalloc(), as the memory doesn't have to be
> > > >>>> physically contiguous. Also the allocation is temporary for the duration of the
> > > >>>> syscall, so it's unlikely to stress vmalloc too much.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Note that the poll(2) syscall seems to use a linked list of order-0 pages, so
> > > >>>> it doesn't need this kind of fallback.
> > > >>
> > > >> How about something like this? (untested)
> > >
> > > This pushes the limit further, but might just delay the problem. Could be an
> > > optimization on top if there's enough interest, though.
> >
> > What's your customer doing with those selects? If they care at all about
> > performance, I doubt they want select to attempt order-4 allocations, fail,
> > then use vmalloc :)
>
> If they care about performance they shouldn't be passing select() lists that
> are anywhere near that large.
> If the number of actual fd is small - use poll().
Right. Presumably it's some old app they're still using, no?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-27 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-22 15:28 [PATCH] fs/select: add vmalloc fallback for select(2) Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-22 16:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-22 16:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-23 6:42 ` Hillf Danton
2016-09-23 7:24 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-23 16:47 ` Jason Baron
2016-09-27 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-27 11:24 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-27 11:37 ` David Laight
2016-09-27 11:42 ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2016-09-27 11:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-28 16:30 ` David Laight
2016-09-28 20:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
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