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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, dsmythies@telus.net,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 172981] New: [bisected] SLAB: extreme load averages and over 2000 kworker threads
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:45:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160929134550.GB20312@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160929020050.GD29250@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:00:50AM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:09:53AM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:03:47PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > [CC Vladimir]
> > > 
> > > These are the delayed memcg cache allocations, where in a fresh memcg
> > > that doesn't have per-memcg caches yet, every accounted allocation
> > > schedules a kmalloc work item in __memcg_schedule_kmem_cache_create()
> > > until the cache is finally available. It looks like those can be many
> > > more than the number of slab caches in existence, if there is a storm
> > > of slab allocations before the workers get a chance to run.
> > > 
> > > Vladimir, what do you think of embedding the work item into the
> > > memcg_cache_array? That way we make sure we have exactly one work per
> > > cache and not an unbounded number of them. The downside of course is
> > > that we'd have to keep these things around as long as the memcg is in
> > > existence, but that's the only place I can think of that allows us to
> > > serialize this.
> > 
> > We could set the entry of the root_cache->memcg_params.memcg_caches
> > array corresponding to the cache being created to a special value, say
> > (void*)1, and skip scheduling cache creation work on kmalloc if the
> > caller sees it. I'm not sure it's really worth it though, because
> > work_struct isn't that big (at least, in comparison with the cache
> > itself) to avoid embedding it at all costs.
> 
> Hello, Johannes and Vladimir.
> 
> I'm not familiar with memcg so have a question about this solution.
> This solution will solve the current issue but if burst memcg creation
> happens, similar issue would happen again. My understanding is correct?

Yes, I think you're right - embedding the work_struct responsible for
cache creation in kmem_cache struct won't help if a thousand of
different cgroups call kmem_cache_alloc() simultaneously for a cache
they haven't used yet.

Come to think of it, we could fix the issue by simply introducing a
special single-threaded workqueue used exclusively for cache creation
works - cache creation is done mostly under the slab_mutex, anyway. This
way, we wouldn't have to keep those used-once work_structs for the whole
kmem_cache life time.

> 
> I think that the other cause of the problem is that we call
> synchronize_sched() which is rather slow with holding a slab_mutex and
> it blocks further kmem_cache creation. Should we fix that, too?

Well, the patch you posted looks pretty obvious and it helps the
reporter, so personally I don't see any reason for not applying it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-172981-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2016-09-27 18:10 ` [Bug 172981] New: [bisected] SLAB: extreme load averages and over 2000 kworker threads Andrew Morton
2016-09-28  2:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-28  8:09     ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-09-29  2:00       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-29 13:45         ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2016-09-30  8:19           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-30 19:58             ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-10-06  5:04             ` Doug Smythies
2016-10-06  6:35               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-10-06 16:02               ` Doug Smythies
2016-10-07 15:55               ` Doug Smythies
2016-09-28  3:13   ` Doug Smythies
2016-09-28  5:18     ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-28  6:20       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-28 15:22       ` Doug Smythies
2016-09-29  1:50         ` Joonsoo Kim

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