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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, dsmythies@telus.net,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 172981] New: [bisected] SLAB: extreme load averages and over 2000 kworker threads
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 22:58:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160930195833.GC20312@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160930081940.GA3606@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 05:19:41PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 04:45:50PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:00:50AM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:09:53AM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:03:47PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > > > [CC Vladimir]
> > > > > 
> > > > > These are the delayed memcg cache allocations, where in a fresh memcg
> > > > > that doesn't have per-memcg caches yet, every accounted allocation
> > > > > schedules a kmalloc work item in __memcg_schedule_kmem_cache_create()
> > > > > until the cache is finally available. It looks like those can be many
> > > > > more than the number of slab caches in existence, if there is a storm
> > > > > of slab allocations before the workers get a chance to run.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Vladimir, what do you think of embedding the work item into the
> > > > > memcg_cache_array? That way we make sure we have exactly one work per
> > > > > cache and not an unbounded number of them. The downside of course is
> > > > > that we'd have to keep these things around as long as the memcg is in
> > > > > existence, but that's the only place I can think of that allows us to
> > > > > serialize this.
> > > > 
> > > > We could set the entry of the root_cache->memcg_params.memcg_caches
> > > > array corresponding to the cache being created to a special value, say
> > > > (void*)1, and skip scheduling cache creation work on kmalloc if the
> > > > caller sees it. I'm not sure it's really worth it though, because
> > > > work_struct isn't that big (at least, in comparison with the cache
> > > > itself) to avoid embedding it at all costs.
> > > 
> > > Hello, Johannes and Vladimir.
> > > 
> > > I'm not familiar with memcg so have a question about this solution.
> > > This solution will solve the current issue but if burst memcg creation
> > > happens, similar issue would happen again. My understanding is correct?
> > 
> > Yes, I think you're right - embedding the work_struct responsible for
> > cache creation in kmem_cache struct won't help if a thousand of
> > different cgroups call kmem_cache_alloc() simultaneously for a cache
> > they haven't used yet.
> > 
> > Come to think of it, we could fix the issue by simply introducing a
> > special single-threaded workqueue used exclusively for cache creation
> > works - cache creation is done mostly under the slab_mutex, anyway. This
> > way, we wouldn't have to keep those used-once work_structs for the whole
> > kmem_cache life time.
> > 
> > > 
> > > I think that the other cause of the problem is that we call
> > > synchronize_sched() which is rather slow with holding a slab_mutex and
> > > it blocks further kmem_cache creation. Should we fix that, too?
> > 
> > Well, the patch you posted looks pretty obvious and it helps the
> > reporter, so personally I don't see any reason for not applying it.
> 
> Oops... I forgot to mention why I asked that.
> 
> There is another report that similar problem also happens in SLUB. In there,
> synchronize_sched() is called in cache shrinking path with holding the
> slab_mutex. I guess that it blocks further kmem_cache creation.
> 
> If we uses special single-threaded workqueue, number of kworker would
> be limited but kmem_cache creation will be delayed for a long time in
> burst memcg creation/destroy scenario.
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172991
> 
> Do we need to remove synchronize_sched() in SLUB and find other
> solution?

Yeah, you're right. We'd better do something about this
synchronize_sched(). I think moving it out of the slab_mutex and calling
it once for all caches in memcg_deactivate_kmem_caches() would resolve
the issue. I'll post the patches tomorrow.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-30 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-172981-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2016-09-27 18:10 ` [Bug 172981] New: [bisected] SLAB: extreme load averages and over 2000 kworker threads Andrew Morton
2016-09-28  2:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-28  8:09     ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-09-29  2:00       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-29 13:45         ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-09-30  8:19           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-30 19:58             ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2016-10-06  5:04             ` Doug Smythies
2016-10-06  6:35               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-10-06 16:02               ` Doug Smythies
2016-10-07 15:55               ` Doug Smythies
2016-09-28  3:13   ` Doug Smythies
2016-09-28  5:18     ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-28  6:20       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-28 15:22       ` Doug Smythies
2016-09-29  1:50         ` Joonsoo Kim

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