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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Sangseok Lee <sangseok.lee@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mm: unreserve highatomic free pages fully before OOM
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:37:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161011073716.GA22314@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161011072605.GD31996@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 09:26:06AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 11-10-16 16:09:45, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:50:48AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Tue 11-10-16 14:01:41, Minchan Kim wrote:
> [...]
> > > > Also, your patch makes retry loop greater than MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES
> > > > if unreserve_highatomic_pageblock returns true. Theoretically,
> > > > it would make live lock. You might argue it's *really really* rare
> > > > but I don't want to add such subtle thing.
> > > > Maybe, we could drain when no_progress_loops == MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES.
> > > 
> > > What would be the scenario when we would really livelock here? How can
> > > we have unreserve_highatomic_pageblock returning true for ever?
> > 
> > Other context freeing highorder page/reallocating repeatedly while
> > a process stucked direct reclaim is looping with should_reclaim_retry.
> 
> If we unreserve those pages then we should converge to OOM. Btw. this
> can happen even without highmem reserves. Heavy short lived allocations
> might keep us looping at the lowest priority. They are just too unlikely
> to care about.

Indeed.
> 
> > > > > aggressive to me. If we just do one at the time we have a chance to
> > > > > keep some reserves if the OOM situation is really ephemeral.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does this patch work in your usecase?
> > > > 
> > > > I didn't test but I guess it works but it has problems I mentioned
> > > > above. 
> > > 
> > > Please do not make this too over complicated and be practical. I do not
> > > really want to dismiss your usecase but I am really not convinced that
> > > such a "perfectly fit into all memory" situations are sustainable and
> > > justify to make the whole code more complex. I agree that we can at
> > > least try to do something to release those reserves but let's do it
> > > as simple as possible.
> > 
> > If you think it's too complicated, how about this?
> 
> Definitely better than the original patch. Little bit too aggressive
> because we could really go with one block at the time. But this is a
> minor thing and easily fixable...
> 
> > @@ -2154,12 +2156,24 @@ static void unreserve_highatomic_pageblock(const struct alloc_context *ac)
> >  			 * may increase.
> >  			 */
> >  			set_pageblock_migratetype(page, ac->migratetype);
> > -			move_freepages_block(zone, page, ac->migratetype);
> > -			spin_unlock_irqrestore(&zone->lock, flags);
> > -			return;
> > +			ret = move_freepages_block(zone, page,
> > +						ac->migratetype);
> > +			/*
> > +			 * By race with page freeing functions, !highatomic
> > +			 * pageblocks can have free pages in highatomic free
> > +			 * list so if drain is true, try to unreserve every
> > +			 * free pages in highatomic free list without bailing
> > +			 * out.
> > +			 */
> > +			if (!drain) {
> 
> 			if (ret)
> > +				spin_unlock_irqrestore(&zone->lock, flags);
> > +				return ret;
> > +			}
> 
> arguably this would work better also for !drain case which currently
> tries to unreserve but in case of the race it would do nothing.

I thought it but I was afraid if you say again it's over complicated.
I will do it with your SOB in next spin.

Thanks, Michal.

> 
> >  		}
> >  		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&zone->lock, flags);
> >  	}
> > +
> > +	return ret;
> >  }
> >  
> >  /* Remove an element from the buddy allocator from the fallback list */
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-11  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-07  5:45 [PATCH 0/4] use up highorder free pages before OOM Minchan Kim
2016-10-07  5:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: adjust reserved highatomic count Minchan Kim
2016-10-07 12:30   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-07 14:29     ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-10  6:57       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-11  4:19         ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-11  9:40           ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-12  5:36           ` Mel Gorman
2016-10-07  5:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: prevent double decrease of nr_reserved_highatomic Minchan Kim
2016-10-07 12:44   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-07 14:30     ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-12  5:36   ` Mel Gorman
2016-10-07  5:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: unreserve highatomic free pages fully before OOM Minchan Kim
2016-10-07  9:09   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-07 14:43     ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-10  7:41       ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-11  5:01         ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-11  6:50           ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-11  7:09             ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-11  7:26               ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-11  7:37                 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2016-10-11  8:01                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-07  5:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: skip to reserve pageblock crossed zone boundary for HIGHATOMIC Minchan Kim
2016-10-07  9:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] use up highorder free pages before OOM Michal Hocko
2016-10-07 15:04   ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-10  7:47     ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-11  5:06       ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-11  6:53         ` Michal Hocko

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