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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: pmladek@suse.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: Wait for oom_lock before retrying.
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:52:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161214135215.GL25573@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201612142236.IIF57367.SVJOFMOFHtFOLQ@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed 14-12-16 22:36:29, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 14-12-16 13:36:44, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > [...]
> > > There are basically two solution for this situation:
> > > 
> > > 1. Fix printk() so that it does not block forever. This will
> > >    get solved by the async printk patchset[*]. In the meantime,
> > >    a particular sensitive location might be worked around
> > >    by using printk_deferred() instead of printk()[**]
> > 
> > Absolutely!
> > 
> > > 2. Reduce the amount of messages. It is insane to report
> > >    the same problem many times so that the same messages
> > >    fill the entire log buffer. Note that the allocator
> > >    is not the only sinner here.
> > 
> > sure and the ratelimit patch should help in that direction.
> > show_mem for each allocation stall is really way too much.
> 
> dump_stack() from warn_alloc() for each allocation stall is also too much.
> Regarding synchronous watchdog like warn_alloc(), each thread's backtrace
> never change for that allocation request because it is always called from
> the same location (i.e. __alloc_pages_slowpath()). Backtrace might be useful
> for the first time of each thread's first allocation stall report for
> that allocation request, but subsequent ones are noises unless backtrace
> of the first time was corrupted/dropped,

Well, the problem is when the ringbuffer overflows and then we lose
older data - and the stack as well. But I agree that dumping it for each
allocation is a lot of noise. We can be more clever than that but this
is more complicated I guess. A global ratelimit will not work and we
most probably do not want to have per task ratelimit I believe because
that sounds too much.

> for they are only saying that
> allocation retry loop did not get stuck inside e.g. shrink_inactive_list().
> Maybe we don't need to call warn_alloc() for each allocation stall; call
> warn_alloc() only once and then use one-liner report.

The thing is that we want occasional show_mem because we want to see how
the situation with the memory counters evolves over time.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-14 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-06 10:33 [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: Wait for oom_lock before retrying Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-07  8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-07 15:29   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08  8:20     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-08 11:00       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08 13:32         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-08 16:18         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-08 13:27     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 14:23       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-09 14:46         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-10 11:24           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12  9:07             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12 11:49               ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-12 13:00                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12 14:05                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-13  1:06                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-12 12:12               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12 12:55                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12 13:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-13 12:06                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-13 17:06                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 11:37                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 12:42                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 16:36                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 18:18                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 10:21                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 11:25                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 12:27                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-20 15:39                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 10:27                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 10:53                                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-22 13:40                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 13:33                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 19:24                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-24  6:25                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-26 11:49                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 10:39                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-27 10:57                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 13:42                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 14:01                                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 14:09                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-22 14:30                                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-26 10:54                                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-26 11:34                                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-12 13:10                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13  2:52                                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13  3:53                                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 11:15                                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:14                                                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-12 14:18                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13  2:28                                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 11:03                                                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-13 11:50                                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 12:15                                                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-26 11:41                                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-13 14:03                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-15  1:11                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-15  6:35                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 10:16                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14  9:37                       ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 10:20                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-14 11:01                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 12:23                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-14 12:47                               ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 10:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-15  7:34                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-14 11:37                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 12:36                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 12:44                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 13:36                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-14 13:52                                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-12-14 12:50                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-12 14:59                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12 15:55                     ` Michal Hocko

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