From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Cristopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bpf: do not use KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:27:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161217082711.GA25784@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161217002820.GB5359@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>
On Fri 16-12-16 16:28:21, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:39:17AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 16-12-16 15:23:42, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:02:35PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Fri 16-12-16 10:02:10, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:47:21PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 01b3f52157ff ("bpf: fix allocation warnings in bpf maps and integer
> > > > > > overflow") has added checks for the maximum allocateable size. It
> > > > > > (ab)used KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX for that purpose. While this is not incorrect
> > > > > > it is not very clean because we already have KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE for this
> > > > > > very reason so let's change both checks to use KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE instead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Nack until the patches 1 and 2 are reversed.
> > > >
> > > > I do not insist on ordering. The thing is that it shouldn't matter all
> > > > that much. Or are you worried about bisectability?
> > >
> > > This patch 1 strongly depends on patch 2 !
> > > Therefore order matters.
> > > The patch 1 by itself is broken.
> > > The commit log is saying
> > > '(ab)used KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX for that purpose .. use KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE instead'
> > > that is also incorrect. We cannot do that until KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE is fixed.
> > > So please change the order
> >
> > Yes, I agree that using KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE could lead to a warning with
> > the current ordering. Why that matters all that much is less clear to
> > me. The allocation would simply fail and you would return ENOMEM rather
> > than E2BIG. Does this really matter?
> >
> > Anyway, as I've said, I do not really insist on the current ordering and
> > the will ask Andrew to reorder them. I am just really wondering about
> > such a strong pushback about something that barely matters. Or maybe I
> > am just missing your point and checking KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE without an
> > update would lead to a wrong behavior, user space breakage, crash or
> > anything similar.
>
> if admin set ulimit for locked memory high enough for the particular user,
> that non-root user will be able to trigger warn_on_once in __alloc_pages_slowpath
> which is not acceptable.
But why is the warning such a big deal?
Also note that such a setup would be inherently dangerous. Even the
default ulimit for the locked memory allows to allocat 64k which means
that an untrusted user will be able to request PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER
and potentially deplete those larger blocks to the extend it hits the
OOM killer with the current gfp flags.
I think what you really want is a GFP_NORETRY for size > PAGE_SIZE and
fallback to the vmalloc for failure. But that is a separate topic.
> Also see the comment in hashtab.c
> if (htab->map.value_size >= (1 << (KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX - 1)) -
> MAX_BPF_STACK - sizeof(struct htab_elem))
> /* if value_size is bigger, the user space won't be able to
> * access the elements via bpf syscall. This check also makes
> * sure that the elem_size doesn't overflow and it's
> * kmalloc-able later in htab_map_update_elem()
> */
> goto free_htab;
I have seen this comment before, but honestly, I do not understand it
(well apart from the overflow part).
htab_map_update_elem has to be able to handle the allocation failure in
any case. Note that any allocation larger than 64kB is likely to fail
anyway.
>
> > > and fix the commit log to say that KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE
> > > is actually valid limit now.
> >
> > KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE has always been the right limit. It's value has been
> > incorrect but that is to be fixed now. Using KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX is simply
> > abusing an internal constant. So I am not sure what should be fixed in
> > the changelog.
>
> that's exactly my problem with this patch and the commit log.
> You think it's abusing KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX whereas it's doing so
> for reasons stated above.
> That piece of code cannot use KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE until it's fixed.
> So commit log should say something like:
> "now since KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE is fixed and size < KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE condition
> guarantees warn free allocation in kmalloc(value_size, GFP_USER | __GFP_NOWARN);
> we can safely use KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE instead of KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX"
OK, fair enough, I will update the changelog
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-17 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-15 16:47 [PATCH 0/2] mm, slab: consolidate KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: do not use KMALLOC_SHIFT_MAX Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 19:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-12-16 18:02 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-16 22:02 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 23:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-16 23:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 0:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-17 8:27 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-12-16 23:40 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-12-15 16:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, slab: make sure that KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE will fit into MAX_ORDER Michal Hocko
2016-12-15 19:11 ` Christoph Lameter
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