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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: vinayak menon <vinayakm.list@gmail.com>
Cc: Vinayak Menon <vinmenon@codeaurora.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, vbabka@suse.cz,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, anton.vorontsov@linaro.org,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	shashim@codeaurora.org, "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 RESEND] mm: vmpressure: fix sending wrong events on underflow
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:09:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170207120954.GL5065@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOaiJ-kehYcq=XSS+J2p-tZbPWa_Z33Pey9Af-EhWMop-P7Q=A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 07-02-17 16:47:18, vinayak menon wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Mon 06-02-17 20:05:21, vinayak menon wrote:
> > [...]
> >> By scan I meant pages scanned by shrink_node_memcg/shrink_list
> >> which is passed as nr_scanned to vmpressure.  The calculation of
> >> pressure for tree is done at the end of vmpressure_win and it is
> >> that calculation which underflows. With this patch we want only the
> >> underflow to be avoided. But if we make (reclaimed = scanned) in
> >> vmpressure(), we change the vmpressure value even when there is no
> >> underflow right ?
> >>
> >> Rewriting the above e.g again.  First call to vmpressure with
> >> nr_scanned=1 and nr_reclaimed=512 (THP) Second call to vmpressure
> >> with nr_scanned=511 and nr_reclaimed=0 In the second call
> >> vmpr->tree_scanned becomes equal to vmpressure_win and the work
> >> is scheduled and it will calculate the vmpressure as 0 because
> >> tree_reclaimed = 512
> >>
> >> Similarly, if scanned is made equal to reclaimed in vmpressure()
> >> itself as you had suggested, First call to vmpressure with
> >> nr_scanned=1 and nr_reclaimed=512 (THP) And in vmpressure, we
> >> make nr_scanned=1 and nr_reclaimed=1 Second call to vmpressure
> >> with nr_scanned=511 and nr_reclaimed=0 In the second call
> >> vmpr->tree_scanned becomes equal to vmpressure_win and the work is
> >> scheduled and it will calculate the vmpressure as critical, because
> >> tree_reclaimed = 1
> >>
> >> So it makes a difference, no?
> >
> > OK, I see what you meant. Thanks for the clarification. And you are
> > right that normalizing nr_reclaimed to nr_scanned is a wrong thing to
> > do because that just doesn't aggregate the real work done. Normalizing
> > nr_scanned to nr_reclaimed should be better - or it would be even better
> > to count the scanned pages properly...
> >
> With the slab reclaimed issue fixed separately, only the THP case exists AFAIK.
> In the case of THP, as I understand from one of Minchan's reply, the scan is
> actually 1. i.e. Only a single huge page is scanned to get 512 reclaimed pages.
> So the cost involved was scanning a single page.
> In that case, there is no need to normalize the nr_scanned, no?

Strictly speaking it is not but it has weird side effects when we
basically lie about vmpressure_win.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-07 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-06 12:24 [PATCH 1/2 v4] mm: vmscan: do not pass reclaimed slab to vmpressure Vinayak Menon
2017-02-06 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/2 RESEND] mm: vmpressure: fix sending wrong events on underflow Vinayak Menon
2017-02-06 12:40   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-06 13:09     ` vinayak menon
2017-02-06 13:24       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-06 14:35         ` vinayak menon
2017-02-06 15:12           ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 11:17             ` vinayak menon
2017-02-07 12:09               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-02-06 12:52 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] mm: vmscan: do not pass reclaimed slab to vmpressure Michal Hocko
2017-02-06 15:10   ` vinayak menon
2017-02-07  8:10     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 11:09       ` vinayak menon
2017-02-07 12:17         ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 13:16           ` vinayak menon
2017-02-07 14:52             ` Michal Hocko

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