From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: tom@herbertland.com
Cc: tariqt@mellanox.com, edumazet@google.com, brouer@redhat.com,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, alexander.duyck@gmail.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, kafai@fb.com, saeedm@mellanox.com,
willemb@google.com, bblanco@plumgrid.com, ast@kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next 08/14] mlx4: use order-0 pages for RX
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:03:55 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170216.140355.2079700662225068523.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S36xcEJ9YssZtzQKOy-tufrWWJO533J0nTEzp_ckb5dVjA@mail.gmail.com>
From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:05:26 -0800
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 15/02/2017 6:57 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it the same principle in page_frag_alloc() ?
>>>> It is called form __netdev_alloc_skb()/__napi_alloc_skb().
>>>>
>>>> Why is it ok to have order-3 pages (PAGE_FRAG_CACHE_MAX_ORDER) there?
>>>
>>> This is not ok.
>>>
>>> This is a very well known problem, we already mentioned that here in the
>>> past,
>>> but at least core networking stack uses order-0 pages on PowerPC.
>>
>> You're right, we should have done this as well in mlx4 on PPC.
>>>
>>> mlx4 driver suffers from this problem 100% more than other drivers ;)
>>>
>>> One problem at a time Tariq. Right now, only mlx4 has this big problem
>>> compared to other NIC.
>>
>> We _do_ agree that the series improves the driver's quality, stability,
>> and performance in a fragmented system.
>>
>> But due to the late rc we're in, and the fact that we know what benchmarks
>> our customers are going to run, we cannot Ack the series and get it
>> as is inside kernel 4.11.
>>
> You're admitting that Eric's patches improve driver quality,
> stability, and performance but you're not allowing this in the kernel
> because "we know what benchmarks our customers are going to run".
> Sorry, but that is a weak explanation.
I have to agree with Tom and Eric.
If your customers have gotten into the habit of using metrics which
actually do not represent real life performance, that is a completely
inappropriate reason to not include Eric's changes as-is.
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2017-02-14 12:12 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 08/14] mlx4: use order-0 pages for RX Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 13:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 14:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 14:56 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-02-14 15:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 16:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 17:29 ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-15 16:42 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-02-15 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-16 13:08 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-02-16 15:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-16 17:05 ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-16 17:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-16 20:49 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-02-16 19:03 ` David Miller [this message]
2017-02-16 21:06 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-02-14 17:04 ` David Miller
2017-02-14 17:17 ` David Laight
2017-02-14 17:22 ` David Miller
2017-02-14 19:38 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 19:59 ` David Miller
2017-02-14 17:29 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-14 18:46 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 19:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 20:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 21:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 19:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-14 19:50 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
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