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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] sparc64: NG4 memset/memcpy 32 bits overflow
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 10:59:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170228185914.GF16328@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e196c73e-937c-50fa-ed19-a10372548fb7@oracle.com>

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:56:57AM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Also, for consideration, machines are getting bigger, and 2G is becoming
> very small compared to the memory sizes, so some algorithms can become
> inefficient when they have to artificially limit memcpy()s to 2G chunks.

... what algorithms are deemed "inefficient" when they take a break every
2 billion bytes to, ohidon'tknow, check to see that a higher priority
process doesn't want the CPU?

> X6-8 scales up to 6T:
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/exadata/exadata-x6-8-ds-2968796.pdf
> 
> SPARC M7-16 scales up to 16T:
> http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/sparc-m7-16-ds-2687045.pdf
> 
> 2G is just 0.012% of the total memory size on M7-16.

Right, so suppose you're copying half the memory to the other half of
memory.  Let's suppose it takes a hundred extra instructions every 2GB to
check that nobody else wants the CPU and dive back into the memcpy code.
That's 800,000 additional instructions.  Which even on a SPARC CPU is
going to execute in less than 0.001 second.  CPU memory bandwidth is
on the order of 100GB/s, so the overall memcpy is going to take about
160 seconds.

You'd have far more joy dividing the work up into 2GB chunks and
distributing the work to N CPU packages (... not hardware threads
...) than you would trying to save a millisecond by allowing the CPU to
copy more than 2GB at a time.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-28 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-28 14:55 [PATCH v1 0/3] Zeroing hash tables in allocator Pavel Tatashin
2017-02-28 14:55 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] sparc64: NG4 memset/memcpy 32 bits overflow Pavel Tatashin
2017-02-28 15:12   ` David Miller
2017-02-28 15:56     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-02-28 18:59       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2017-02-28 19:34         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-02-28 19:58           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-28 14:55 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] mm: Zeroing hash tables in allocator Pavel Tatashin
2017-02-28 14:55 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] mm: Updated callers to use HASH_ZERO flag Pavel Tatashin

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