From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: How to favor memory allocations for WQ_MEM_RECLAIM threads?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:48:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307214842.GA7500@htj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170307212132.GQ17542@dastard>
Hello,
On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 08:21:32AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > I don't see how whether something is running off of a rescuer or not
> > matters here. The only thing workqueue guarantees is that there's
> > gonna be at least one kworker thread executing work items from the
> > workqueue. Running on a rescuer doesn't necessarily indicate memory
> > pressure condition.
>
> That's news to me. In what situations do we run the rescuer thread
> other than memory allocation failure when queuing work?
It's a timeout based mechanism. Whevever the delay might be coming
from, the rescuer kicks in if the workqueue fails to make forward
progress for a while. The only thing which can induce delay there is
kthread creation path, which usually gets blocked on memory pressure
but it could easily be something else - severe cpu contention,
somebody holding some mutex for too long, whatever.
> > It's implementable for sure. I'm just not sure how it'd help
> > anything. It's not a relevant information on anything.
>
> Except to enable us to get closer to the "rescuer must make forwards
> progress" guarantee. In this context, the rescuer is the only
> context we should allow to dip into memory reserves. I'm happy if we
> have to explicitly check for that and set PF_MEMALLOC ourselves
> (we do that for XFS kernel threads involved in memory reclaim),
> but it's not something we should set automatically on every
> IO completion work item we run....
Ah, okay, that does make sense to me. Yeah, providing that test
shouldn't be difficult at all. Lemme cook up a patch.
Thanks.
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tejun
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-07 21:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-03 10:48 How to favor memory allocations for WQ_MEM_RECLAIM threads? Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-03 13:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-03 15:37 ` Brian Foster
2017-03-03 15:52 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-03 17:29 ` Brian Foster
2017-03-04 14:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-06 13:25 ` Brian Foster
2017-03-06 16:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-06 16:17 ` Brian Foster
2017-03-03 23:25 ` Dave Chinner
2017-03-07 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 19:36 ` Tejun Heo
2017-03-07 21:21 ` Dave Chinner
2017-03-07 21:48 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2017-03-08 23:03 ` Tejun Heo
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